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Originally Posted by Felix Schrodinger First things first, PoP Only when we have a viable paradigm which explains the four 'forces' of nature, can we reliably move on to the other deeper things. The term TOE has thus been adopted to mean the limited explanation of the four forces and even this will be a major scientific revolution. regards Felix

Hi Felix;

"First things first", is actually what I am taking about in this thread. Many very intelligent people have been trying for a very long time to add the mystical force of Gravity, to the other three known forces, and then call it the TOE.

I personally believe that Gravity, is the 'product' of the other three forces, and not an actual force in its self. So, I believe that the TOE is actually to be found, in the someday realization, that the combined interactions between the three known forces, is what we call gravity.

Virtually all thinkers on this subject of the TOE, look at it from the study of the 'chicken', where I look at it from the study of the 'egg'. Over twenty years ago I realized that the study of the 'chicken' was going no-where, so I decided to study it from the perspective of the 'egg'. Thus, "First things first".

The TOE you speak of, to me, will be called "Gravity". The Gravity theory(TOE), will be the discovery of the formula, that uses the three known forces in combination to describe their effect on the macro world.

I could be wrong, but that is how I see things as of this day. The real TOE to me, will go far beyond any discovery of a "Gravity theory".