[Fredrick]

Originally Posted by zeroca

... so the assertion that something existed before the world arose I think is illogical, cause the question from what this “something“ originated demands explanation as well.

I agree with you that materialization did not exist before the Big Bang. But to call this previous state nothing is a qualification in itself that has no grounds (except that there was nothing from the perspective of materialization). I believe that what existed before the Big Bang must remain unqualified. Though this may sound like giving up on the idea that we can explain where the previous state came from, I think it is nevertheless an acknowledgement of the fact that we are viewing the point of origin from our own materialized position. To say this with other words; the only explanations we should be looking for are those pertaining to materialization. That what does not belong to the process of materialization cannot be fully known. Therefore to call this previous state nothing is like making the claim that we can know with certainty, while in reality we cannot know with certainty about that what existed before materialization. It may sound trivial again, but the distinction is important because it clarifies the difference between what we can and cannot know. I think we can fully know/understand the process of materialization, but our knowledge about the previous state will always be that of a grey area of which we can say something, but only in as far as how it contributed to/ enabled materialization.