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Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com  Yes, consciousness is the functioning of the brain and the brain came first. No brain, no consciousness. Lower creatures with less brain probably have less consciousness as well as what is presented to consciousness. A snail, for example, may be only conscious of light and dark, warm and cold.
Further statements on consciousness to be an outside thought receiver or a path to a One are just conjecture since consciousness has not been explained (even by Dennett who wrote 'Consciousness Explained').
People always suppose things that just sound good.
How about: The Universe is made out of consciousness stuff. Sounds good, but who can prove it? Or say, the 3rd dimension is a projection. Sounds OK since we know about holograms, but, if it is, then that is nature's way; it doesn't mean a Powerful Guy did it, or, if not, that nature is a God or a One. |
A Rudimentary consciousness came into being
simultaneously with the embroy...the body/brain organism.
It too "evolved" in its own way.
The Greeks knew this and celebrated their birthday in honor of that which they understood as their "genius".
D.
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Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com Yes, consciousness is the functioning of the brain and the brain came first. No brain, no consciousness. Lower creatures with less brain probably have less consciousness as well as what is presented to consciousness. A snail, for example, may be only conscious of light and dark, warm and cold.
Further statements on consciousness to be an outside thought receiver or a path to a One are just conjecture since consciousness has not been explained (even by Dennett who wrote 'Consciousness Explained').
People always suppose things that just sound good.
How about: The Universe is made out of consciousness stuff. Sounds good, but who can prove it? Or say, the 3rd dimension is a projection. Sounds OK since we know about holograms, but, if it is, then that is nature's way; it doesn't mean a Powerful Guy did it, or, if not, that nature is a God or a One. |
A willingness to grow along spiritual lines means you have to understand nature as being Co Creator with that spoken here of as... the No thing... aka Awareness or God The Father of All if you prefer...
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Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com No one asks anyone to doubt consciousness, plus it is much only a subject and never an object, for that is it job (to witness). It's just that since no one knows how it operates, any leap from there to say more is just a guess.
In general we know that consciousness can be affected by affecting the brain, so, in general, consciousness seems to need a brain to operate. |
You put the cart before the horse A. but that's ok...
Check this out...pg 25, 26 or so...
there's an very poignant anology about
a man (non-gender specific...i.e. consciousness, aka an ambiguous or wayward soul, e.g. 'normally/temporally expressing as the thinking mechanism')
who temporaily
gets knocked "unconscious".
"A Brief Tour of Higher Consciousness"... ~ Itzhak Bentov
we gotta crawl, before we can walk brother...
(dare i say walk,
which is to be taken to mean 'Graceful',before we can fly?)
namaste`brother,
(Then 'We can'...Return...
Having Thusly Arisen...to The Nest...if so it moight be said)
Like The Firebird, Drifter O God! Refresh and gladden my spirit. Purify my heart. Illumine my powers. I lay all my affairs in Thy hand. Thou art my Guide and my Refuge. I will no longer be sorrowful and grieved; I will be a happy and joyful being. O God! I will no longer be full of anxiety, nor will I let trouble harass me. I will not dwell on the unpleasant things of life. O God! Thou art more friend to me than I am to myself. I dedicate myself to Thee, O Lord. - 'Abdu'l-Bahá (Compilations, Baha'i Prayers, p. 150) Quote:
Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com Yes, consciousness is the functioning of the brain and the brain came first. No brain, no consciousness. Lower creatures with less brain probably have less consciousness as well as what is presented to consciousness. A snail, for example, may be only conscious of light and dark, warm and cold.
Further statements on consciousness to be an outside thought receiver or a path to a One are just conjecture since consciousness has not been explained (even by Dennett who wrote 'Consciousness Explained').
People always suppose things that just sound good.
How about: The Universe is made out of consciousness stuff. Sounds good, but who can prove it? Or say, the 3rd dimension is a projection. Sounds OK since we know about holograms, but, if it is, then that is nature's way; it doesn't mean a Powerful Guy did it, or, if not, that nature is a God or a One. |
Can you say "Prestidigitation?...anyone?. . . presi..Presi...Indig...Nation?...
Very good johhny. . .
This is what that word means...so pay attention . . . ok everybody??? "
YOU HEARD!" 
(just kidding)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GXlEfUGEzl4&NR=1 D.