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humanbydefault · **"The true nature of time" (the saga continues) -** 10-01-2005, 12:00 PM

I think that there's been a misunderstanding in the interpretation of my last posting. This is what I replied to GUILLE with respect to his comment:

[... He (Einstein) saw the relationship between gravity and TIME, my problem with that is that TIME was "spinning forward" in an absolute manner and not as a consequence of light-speeding observers... That's my point here!]
Let's rephrase it this way:

... My problem with that is that TIME [in my personal view] was spinning forward in an ABSOLUTE MANNER and not as... Is it clear now?

I-ME-MYSELF-HUMANBYDEFAULT believe that TIME is limited to the harmonic nature of our own reality and holds its regional status depending which scale is analysed. The spiral and spinning configuration of galaxies and solar systems represent individual and inter-connected TIME systems.

About the term "paradox"... Well I didn't like it either, but what a heck! that's what you find in non-fiction literature written by "experimenters-physicists."
How many times I've said in the past that some "scientific non-fictional literature" sounds worse than the most horrible Sci-Fi novel?
I didn't invented the "Einstein's twin PARADOX" neither the so-called "EPR PARADOX" and so on... It was THEM!

I'll be back to this subject in a minute, but I want to thank mkirkpatrick for his reply. The idea that TIME was "an eternal now" was not new. I remember reading a year ago that some earlier philosophers believed that TIME was just a product of our minds and all there is was PRESENT. This form of thinking changed with Aristotle who proposed "TIME as a measurement of change." I feel that this idea was more advanced than Newton's one even being older than the English scientist's.
TIME is (I said) the way we perceive the result of changes that occur in the vacuum and represent the reality we see, feel and measure in our experiments. Those changes (I repeat) are manufactured inside our sun. Gravity is the final result of star activity and has nothing to do with some alleged warping of space by the sole presence of mass.
Kepler said: "There is a force inside the sun that moves the Earth along with the rest of the planets" It is sad that we have paid very few attention to those wise words...(!)
The "curved space" is (if you think hard) nothing more than a human illusion. The teaspoon (dramatically bent) inside a glass full of water, the shrinking of objects traveling close to light-speed, the rainbow after the storm... the list could be infinite.
I went further than that! I included the existence of "sub-atomic particles" as another dangerous "human illusion." Not as a consequence of our minds... They are REAL! but they are not what we believe they are! A quantum of high energy is not ABOVE THE LAW! And I'm talking about The Law. [The law of conservation of energy] A PERFECT VACUUM in space is a violation of the sacred LAW and the universe-creation-God (you may use the "term" that you may find more appropiate to your "personality) won't allow it! PERIOD!

That's why mass comes into the picture! It's pathetic [I know] but is the way it is. Mass never held polarity, charges, and human-given properties. Mass is INNERT and it will be always there to avoid a blank wherever ENERGY needs it.
Even ENERGY found no other way to "survive" than to confront each other in a desperate attempt to create a pattern (that I didn't invented) called STANDING WAVES.

Now! If what I've just mentioned to you does not qualify as a PARADOX... What would then?
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I'm very honored by the high interest this subject has produced among the forum members. Every one could see that by the fast growing number of visitors of this page. I welcome every intelligent and well-intentioned comment you may have, no matter if they are the exact opposite of what I said. TIME is a precious commodity and I'm not willing to wast it in empty explanations about what I said or I didn't say. I hope this "incident" will not be repeated again... After all I believe we are all gentlemen right?

HUMANBYDEFAULT
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humanbydefault 2nd degree Black Belt Status: Offline Posts: 328 Thanks Given: 2 Thanked 18x in 14 Posts Join Date: Jun 2005 Rep Power: 15	"The true nature of time" (the saga continues) - 10-01-2005, 12:00 PM I think that there's been a misunderstanding in the interpretation of my last posting. This is what I replied to GUILLE with respect to his comment: [... He (Einstein) saw the relationship between gravity and TIME, my problem with that is that TIME was "spinning forward" in an absolute manner and not as a consequence of light-speeding observers... That's my point here!] Let's rephrase it this way: ... My problem with that is that TIME [in my personal view] was spinning forward in an ABSOLUTE MANNER and not as... Is it clear now? I-ME-MYSELF-HUMANBYDEFAULT believe that TIME is limited to the harmonic nature of our own reality and holds its regional status depending which scale is analysed. The spiral and spinning configuration of galaxies and solar systems represent individual and inter-connected TIME systems. About the term "paradox"... Well I didn't like it either, but what a heck! that's what you find in non-fiction literature written by "experimenters-physicists." How many times I've said in the past that some "scientific non-fictional literature" sounds worse than the most horrible Sci-Fi novel? I didn't invented the "Einstein's twin PARADOX" neither the so-called "EPR PARADOX" and so on... It was THEM! I'll be back to this subject in a minute, but I want to thank mkirkpatrick for his reply. The idea that TIME was "an eternal now" was not new. I remember reading a year ago that some earlier philosophers believed that TIME was just a product of our minds and all there is was PRESENT. This form of thinking changed with Aristotle who proposed "TIME as a measurement of change." I feel that this idea was more advanced than Newton's one even being older than the English scientist's. TIME is (I said) the way we perceive the result of changes that occur in the vacuum and represent the reality we see, feel and measure in our experiments. Those changes (I repeat) are manufactured inside our sun. Gravity is the final result of star activity and has nothing to do with some alleged warping of space by the sole presence of mass. Kepler said: "There is a force inside the sun that moves the Earth along with the rest of the planets" It is sad that we have paid very few attention to those wise words...(!) The "curved space" is (if you think hard) nothing more than a human illusion. The teaspoon (dramatically bent) inside a glass full of water, the shrinking of objects traveling close to light-speed, the rainbow after the storm... the list could be infinite. I went further than that! I included the existence of "sub-atomic particles" as another dangerous "human illusion." Not as a consequence of our minds... They are REAL! but they are not what we believe they are! A quantum of high energy is not ABOVE THE LAW! And I'm talking about The Law. [The law of conservation of energy] A PERFECT VACUUM in space is a violation of the sacred LAW and the universe-creation-God (you may use the "term" that you may find more appropiate to your "personality) won't allow it! PERIOD! That's why mass comes into the picture! It's pathetic [I know] but is the way it is. Mass never held polarity, charges, and human-given properties. Mass is INNERT and it will be always there to avoid a blank wherever ENERGY needs it. Even ENERGY found no other way to "survive" than to confront each other in a desperate attempt to create a pattern (that I didn't invented) called STANDING WAVES. Now! If what I've just mentioned to you does not qualify as a PARADOX... What would then? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm very honored by the high interest this subject has produced among the forum members. Every one could see that by the fast growing number of visitors of this page. I welcome every intelligent and well-intentioned comment you may have, no matter if they are the exact opposite of what I said. TIME is a precious commodity and I'm not willing to wast it in empty explanations about what I said or I didn't say. I hope this "incident" will not be repeated again... After all I believe we are all gentlemen right? HUMANBYDEFAULT www.humanbydefault.com