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02-17-2005, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Fredrick
I agree with you that materialization did not exist before the Big Bang. But to call this previous state nothing is a qualification in itself that has no grounds (except that there was nothing from the perspective of materialization). I believe that what existed before the Big Bang must remain unqualified.
I believe that there’s no task that can’t be solved, and there’s no question that can’t be answered correctly. If we assume that before materialization existed only nothing, we assume that there wasn’t anybody, or anything that realized what kind of state it was; and nothing itself didn’t realize it as well. Nothing as a conception was born in our conscience, but we ourselves already are something; the trouble is that nobody can show where nothing is, or what really it is. Everything else that can be shown, or felt already is something.
We have to analyze it only indirect way.
If we take numeral axis and try to explain that cipher zero corresponds to nonexistence, some people can say that nothing or zero doesn’t exist itself and it was only admitted to characterize the state when something is absent (the state when we don’t have something). For example, if we own 5 apples and they are taken away off us (all of them), we will get into so called non-apple-having condition, and this condition can be described as nothing regarding to apples, but it doesn’t mean that apples don’t exist generally. It’s too difficult to discuss about nonexistence from our position (i.e. from the position of existence), i.e. difficult to speak about nonexistence of universe, when you clearly see its existence, and if it is an illusion, anyway illusion itself presents something.
So, it’s useless to argue about it.
But the question - was this universe born from nothing or did it exist always? - Demands answering. If this universe was born from nothing, which itself remains nothing so far (in spite of fact that we can’t see it anywhere), then every creature in this universe and the universe itself must contain the code of it and there must be a system or mechanism based on it with help of which we can prove it experimentally.

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