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Mind over matter? - 10-28-2005, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick
Question.If the dna code gets higher through generations,will it eventually
reveal that there is intelligence behind all manifestation?

kind regards michael.
This is a really good question, and I hazard to guess that if this theory gains larger support it will be an outstanding one which will generate vigorous debates. My guess is everyone will bring their own bias to the interpretation of this question and derive from it whatever they wish to see in it. I will argue both sides of the issue on a very cursory level:

The argument for external agency:

I do not buy this argument, but here it is: If the universe if moving towards a more and more improbable state- not necessarily- but through many small bifurcations of the probability tree- then we obviously are in a state vector which was manipulated externally. A single lucky accident one can attribute to chance, but billions of them in a row and you have to start thinking of outside involvement.

The argument against external agency:

The above argument is completely false- it is easy to design a nondeterministic system which MUST move into a more improbable state by design. Our universe obviously must be of that type.

Further, even if the universe is moving towards a more improbable state by chance as long as there are explative systems which explain its motion- and evolution is the one which we accept in scientific circles- there is no need to resort to the notion of external agency. For example, if the universe were to observe itself, and make choices about future path trajectories, then this would not involve external agency in the slightest bit- it would be internal agency- completely within the bounds of the system itself.

The exception to this would be if you were at an unusual time t of observation. If a few moments after the beginning of the universe you were to observe yourself in a very highly improbable situation- then you would have to seriously consider either external involvement or lack of knowledge about the beginning conditions.

At our current moment of observation, some billions and billions of years after the beginning, with a stable set of interpretations of how our local system evolves towards a more improbable state- there is no need to invoke the notion of external involvement.

However of course, some people will and could. This is similar to, or exactly the same as, the argument for and against intelligent design. Those on the Darwinian side of the debate say "there is no need to invoke external agency- so you are obviously wrong" and the other side says "I believe in external agency, no you are wrong".
  
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