[Mike 5]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao

In the quantum domain, spins are manifested as the changes of energy levels as observed in the spectral lines in the experimental science of spectroscopy. Since quantum spins are discrete, they only have two possible values, say 'up' and 'down' of Planck's constant divided by 2pi. The following site gives information about the connection between specific heat and the Bose-Einstein or Fermi-Dirac statistical distributions of quantized energy and spin.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...mo/dulong.html

So spin for a nuetrino is an esoteric concept, a collusion of academics licking each other's ... ice cream?

Do neutrinos spin in the sense that a ball spins?

No, apparently this word "up spin" or "half spin" is used poetically when a measurement we do not understand is observed on a machine.

That is esoteric.

I realise the concept of sub atomic particles or things is fairly esoteric anyway.

Is there some sinewave oscillation and if so what is the rotational frequency and amplitude?

Or is spin just a word, it could easily be "twist" - if it is - as you imply - static. Or "offset". What quality of the mundane dog and ball and child experience we all know as "spin", IF ANY, applies to the "half" spin or "Up" that is real, out there, beyond the read out on a machine?

Don't Bose make loudspeakers? Fermi-Durac sounds like a cream French people put on cuts and bee stings.

Thumping the table here, in the realm of sights sounds and sensations, when the library is closed, and all the books are burnt...

When the temple is shut and the priests have no bibles, no quoting and avoiding, what IS spin?

When the politician has not answered the question, the TV presenter repeats it. Here in the UK.

This sounds interesting but I cannot understand this in tangible terms. Spin is a word I can apply to a ball. Clockwise or anticlockwise, viewed from opposite sides. Is half a spin some different form to clockwise and anticlockwise and stationary? I want some tangible idea if this is esoteric, or how it relates to the reality that we make in our minds from the sights sounds and sensations we experience as human cognition.

Confident that you will forgive my frustration in good humour Antonio, you have been kind to reply, forgive me, I did not find anything my fingers could touch, my eyes could see without a machine, my ears could hear without language, I declare I am really frustrated that you avoid the possibility that these things are real, and if we could be at the these tiny scales, what would our human senses encounter?