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Fredrick · **Agree with your words but variation remains intact. -** 03-14-2005, 10:20 PM

Hi AntonioLao,

I fully agree with your words but even then the zero dimensional unit scalar leaves space for variation. Did that first outward movement of time and space start from a pea sized center or from a much larger sphere of which the center remained empty?

Hi Zeroca,

I do not believe it will ever be possible to prove our universe came out of nothing, simply because I do not believe our universe came out of nothing. Nothing - according to me - is only one of the aspects of our universe, not of what was before. In my view, nothing is nothing at all, but as such it exists, is part of our universe. To have a process start up with nothing and get a positive result is according to me not possible, because you cannot start with nothing nor can anyone else; our universe already exists. Nothing only comes about as part of a larger picture.

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Fredrick Master Status: Offline Posts: 668 Thanks Given: 62 Thanked 127x in 102 Posts Join Date: May 2004 Rep Power: 26	Agree with your words but variation remains intact. - 03-14-2005, 10:20 PM Hi AntonioLao, I fully agree with your words but even then the zero dimensional unit scalar leaves space for variation. Did that first outward movement of time and space start from a pea sized center or from a much larger sphere of which the center remained empty? Hi Zeroca, I do not believe it will ever be possible to prove our universe came out of nothing, simply because I do not believe our universe came out of nothing. Nothing - according to me - is only one of the aspects of our universe, not of what was before. In my view, nothing is nothing at all, but as such it exists, is part of our universe. To have a process start up with nothing and get a positive result is according to me not possible, because you cannot start with nothing nor can anyone else; our universe already exists. Nothing only comes about as part of a larger picture. The difference between a structure based on unification and a structure without unification hinges on the question if nothing is just plain nothing or if nothing is mighty fundamental. Read In Search of a Cyclops with titillating mathematical evidence (see homepage) to find out if separation belongs to the fundamental basics of our universe - or not.