Mysteries of the Bose-Einstein Condensate

[baudrunner]

The following excerpt is from the latest article on my blogspot site which I titled "Mysteries of the Bose-Einstein Condensate".

Experiments on BEC's have for the most part involved the use of isotopes like rubidium-87 which naturally repel one another. They more readily produce BEC's. In one experiment of note the researchers at JILA altered the naturally attractive forces of rubidium-85 by using a magnetic field sweep to cause spin-flip collisions thereby inducing the Rb-85 atoms to repel one another. They were then able to form those atoms into a stable condensate. When the magnetic field strength was increased still further, the atoms reverted to attraction and the BEC cloud imploded and shrank beyond detection, then spontaneously exploded, releasing about two-thirds of its atoms. About half the atoms that made up the original BEC could not be located either in the remaining condensate or the expanding cloud of gas. Their strange disappearance has not as yet been satisfactorily explained and was not predicted by quantum theory although the physics community is not for want of ideas on the subject.

Notwithstanding that this is almost plagiarized from the Wikipedia page on the subject of BEC's the experimental result begs the question.. "where did the Rb-85 atoms go?"

I am throwing this problem out to the community here at Toequest. I am looking for ideas, any idea at all, no matter how bizarre or esoteric. Put your minds to work on this one. I want to know what you all think. I am working on a library computer and I probably won't get back to you all until Monday morning EST. In the meantime, the ball is in your court.

What happened to those atoms?

[dleviwing]

Baud;
WOW; That was an excellent write up on your blog.
This sounds a great deal like a process for creating neutrinos. I’m not sure if current understanding of QED can provide any reasonable answers though. It may take some time to provide my answer though I think it has more to do with the effects of uniform wave symmetry motions that collapse normal matter.

[N0B0DY]

Perhaps they joined the dark matter of the universe, or maybe all of them disappeared and only half of them were visible - like a big-bang scenario: http://www.slac.stanford.edu/pubs/be...6-1-sather.pdf

[paradigm]

As attraction is the result of the absorption of emission and repulsion the result of equivalent levels of emission, if two isotopes of rubidium-87 repel each other then they have equivalent levels of emission. If rubidium-85 naturally attract each other then they must have an in-equivalence of emission. If they are induced to repel each other by a magnetic field, then it’s because one has absorbed more of the emission of the field than the other bringing them into equivalence of emission. If increasing the strength of the field resulted in the atoms reverting to attraction then it’s because the one which has absorbed less in the first place now absorbed emission to bring the atoms into in-equivalence once again. Once an atom has attained its maximum state of construction through absorption, the impacting emission acts as pressure causing the atom to de-construct (explode). You would expect around half the atoms in BEC cloud to appear to disappear.
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[paradigm]

As attraction is the result of the absorption of emission and repulsion the result of equivalent levels of emission, if two isotopes of rubidium-87 repel each other then they have equivalent levels of emission. If rubidium-85 naturally attract each other then they must have an in-equivalence of emission. If they are induced to repel each other by a magnetic field, then it’s because one has absorbed more of the emission of the field than the other bringing them into equivalence of emission. If increasing the strength of the field resulted in the atoms reverting to attraction then it’s because the one which has absorbed less in the first place now absorbed emission to bring the atoms into in-equivalence once again. Once an atom has attained its maximum state of construction through absorption, the impacting emission acts as pressure causing the atom to de-construct (explode). You would expect around half the atoms in BEC cloud to appear to disappear.
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[paradigm]

Sorry about the font size.

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[Lloyd Gillespie]

Hi Stephen, and welcome to ToeQuest, and hope you find your time here productive. I finally got around to reading your paper, and very much enjoyed the first section, and am in agreement with much of this first section. The second section would need much clearer groundings, imo, so more could possibly relate your mathematical ideas to sound reality. May I suggest you put your second section into a simpler synopsis of your views, for some of us dummies, here at the Quest, to more easily understand your ideas...?rrr

This post is very clear...

As attraction is the result of the absorption of emission and repulsion the result of equivalent levels of emission, if two isotopes of rubidium-87 repel each other then they have equivalent levels of emission. If rubidium-85 naturally attract each other then they must have an in-equivalence of emission. If they are induced to repel each other by a magnetic field, then it’s because one has absorbed more of the emission of the field than the other bringing them into equivalence of emission. If increasing the strength of the field resulted in the atoms reverting to attraction then it’s because the one which has absorbed less in the first place now absorbed emission to bring the atoms into in-equivalence once again. Once an atom has attained its maximum state of construction through absorption, the impacting emission acts as pressure causing the atom to de-construct (explode). You would expect around half the atoms in BEC cloud to appear to disappear.
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[paradigm]

You're quite correct when you say that I need to make the explanation of the application of the paradigm more clear.

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[labelwench]

This may be slightly off-topic, but I believe you two gentlemen and others who follow this thread are likely in the know regarding CERN and I thought this scrap of news might be of mild interest.

Regards,

Labelwench

Scientist at particle collider arrested in terror linkSource: CBC News
Posted: 10/09/09 11:27AM
Filed Under: Top News
A physicist at the facility that houses the world's largest particle collider in Switzerland has been arrested on suspicion of terror links, according to officials.

The European Organization for Nuclear Research, also known by the French acronym CERN, said French officials arrested the man on Thursday in south-east France for suspected al-Qaeda links.

The Large Hadron Collider, which lies underground near the Franco-Swiss border, is a powerful particle collider that aims to recreate conditions in the universe not long after the Big Bang.

CERN officials said the man was working under contract with an outside institute and said he had no contact with anything that could have been used for terrorism. He had been at CERN since 2003, officials said.

The LHCb experiment where he worked is the smallest of a series of installations along the 27-kilometre circular tunnel that houses the facility.

"None of our research has potential for military application, and all our results are published openly in the public domain," CERN said in a statement Friday.

Collider to resume operations in November

The collider was expected to resume operations in November after a year-long delay because of a problem with some of its electrical connections.

The news that someone with terror connections might have worked at the facility is likely to cause concern because of both the high profile of the giant physics experiment and also the technology in use, which has made some members of the public nervous.

Before it started in September 2008, the particle collider drew protests from Europeans worried it would trigger a disaster, with some scenarios suggesting the accelerator will create a black hole that will swallow the Earth.

Physicists and CERN officials dismissed the concerns, with the LHC project leader saying in 2008,"Obviously, the world will not end when the LHC switches on."

The collider is designed, however, to work at high energies. When it relaunches in November, the collider is expected to begin running at 3.5 tera-electron volts (TeV), or 3.5 million-million electron volts, and was built to move particles at twice those energies.

The accelerator is designed to smash subatomic particles into each other at high speeds in order to break them down and allow the discovery of smaller, more fundamental particles.

The prosecutor's office in the Isere region of France said the case has been transferred to the anti-terrorist section of the Paris prosecutor's office.

[G_burnett]

As attraction is the result of the absorption of emission and repulsion the result of equivalent levels of emission, if two isotopes of rubidium-87 repel each other then they have equivalent levels of emission. If rubidium-85 naturally attract each other then they must have an in-equivalence of emission. If they are induced to repel each other by a magnetic field, then it’s because one has absorbed more of the emission of the field than the other bringing them into equivalence of emission. If increasing the strength of the field resulted in the atoms reverting to attraction then it’s because the one which has absorbed less in the first place now absorbed emission to bring the atoms into in-equivalence once again. Once an atom has attained its maximum state of construction through absorption, the impacting emission acts as pressure causing the atom to de-construct (explode). You would expect around half the atoms in BEC cloud to appear to disappear.
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Hi Steven, welcome to the Quest here
The event notable in your postulations is a more recent observation in the creators of the BEC chamber in Arizona these days having the disappearance of atoms take place in a flash of white light not to be found after the later weigh in. Matter completely gone they said. I will try to locate that article or you can search your self. The smashing of full atom packets is sort of new they were saying.

Kind regards graham