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Originally Posted by baudrunner I ask you to read all my submissions in order to understand my take on spirituality. I suspect that you just read the short of things and not the long. Admittedly, I have submitted some long posts, but one can't present the TOE in just a few short paragraphs. Give them a try.

Your TOE is incorrect and so any time you imply that it is correct I will state otherwise because I have read every post you've made and have seen that your TOE is incorrect. It is not that I don't like you, it's just that I don't want there to be any confusion about the TOE because it is a very sacred thing. Thank you.

[baudrunner]

Your statement "Your TOE is incorrect" implies that you know the correct TOE. Thus far you have not provided us with the least bit of a suggestion as to what this TOE of yours actually is, so it can be concluded that your 6th degree black belt status is the result of "all talk no action", so to speak. You are young, so I'll chalk up your superfluous blurts as the product of an obstreperous personality. You should know, however, that this personality projects through your writing, and is perceptible to all who read you. I suspect that you'll tire of this eventually, and either settle down to making some valid contributions related to science and/or philosophy or exhaust your own petty façade and move on to some flunky porn site or frivolous chat room for your favorite hangout. I knew someone like you once, he quite often forgot to shave between his eyebrows.

[mkirkpatrick]

It is difficult when having spent many years looking atthe world full of many
seperate things!Or so I thought,for now with the understanding of inter-
connectivity,I have to ask myself the fundamental question where do I begin
and end?I mean by this where do I absolutely begin,and where do I absolutely end?The more that you ponder on this the farther in you go,I am
living conscious energy,amid an infinite ocean of energies,is there any tangible separtion between me and the universal energy,well there is none
that I am aware of,I am a point of conscious awareness within a ocean of
allness.The very idea of being seperate,is when understood,actually quite
absurd and ridiculous.



kind regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

Realization seldom I feel "floods in" and suddenly we "see the light,rather it seems to trickle in a little at a time-a "gradual dawning"so to speak.

Feeling apart from everyone and everything is today I feel a common experience,sadly this seems to lead to many cases of suicide,and just recently on the news,internet sites
devoted to informing people how to kill themselves and attain "virtual immortality"!



When we can make the connections and realize we are all one,then this form of sickness
will hopefully pass.



regards michael.

[everymansmedium]

Hello friends:
“Oneness of Life”
I wish to respond with my 2 cents worth of insight relative to this thought about oneness. This begins with a look at a very basic possibility of life. We are all familiar with the thought that we can not truly determine if any of the actions that are the result of any living thing is an initial causation or the result of the initial cause for life itself. In either case all that lives is tied together as a single cause. If each action of life is an initial cause then it indicates that there is a constant at the basis of life. If there is a constant at the basis of life then all life is the result of a single force. This will generate a medium of connectivity between all things alive this is indicative of a singularity. If there is no force as the basis of life then all results are simply the final result of whatever the cause of life was. In either case it is still a single cause.

The separation of character and consciousness. If you consider the idea of a multiple personality within one body. There is still only one consciousness. The individual recognizable entities (character) is the result of a broken up data source. The character is the result of data. If the data packet is somehow disconnected then it is quite possible for each packet of data to be unaware of each other. The consciousness continues to operate but on separated data sources. (Character = data)
Consciousness is something else. Character and consciousness are 2 separate things.

The character that makes us (WHO) we are is a separate thing from consciousness.

I feel that consciousness is the result of a PPL. (probability priority loop)
This is not as difficult as most consider it to be. However because it is something that can be simulated, the greatest consciousness has already come to be, long before man came on the scene. I am quite sure that there is a whole universe that is already under the control of this greater consciousness.

This greater consciousness may be something that occurred as a result of random occurrences within a steady state universe and will continue to be there as long as there is a universe to be within.
OR
It might be an inherent function of the multiverse itself. In either case it is possible to simulate this phenomena in a computer medium. It might be very dangerous unless it is maintained in a limited medium like that of a man.
text only I/O at human speeds. It would be foolish for us to create something that will become greater than we are. (No life expectancy) (No natural enemies) (It Can design and create a body that will work in any environment)
(As long as it keeps a copy of its software it will be immortal) (It can transmit its character via EM medium at the speed of light and wake up on the other end) (it can make copies of itself and send them every where.)
John.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by everymansmedium Hello friends: “Oneness of Life” I wish to respond with my 2 cents worth of insight relative to this thought about oneness. This begins with a look at a very basic possibility of life. We are all familiar with the thought that we can not truly determine if any of the actions that are the result of any living thing is an initial causation or the result of the initial cause for life itself. In either case all that lives is tied together as a single cause. If each action of life is an initial cause then it indicates that there is a constant at the basis of life. If there is a constant at the basis of life then all life is the result of a single force. This will generate a medium of connectivity between all things alive this is indicative of a singularity. If there is no force as the basis of life then all results are simply the final result of whatever the cause of life was. In either case it is still a single cause. The separation of character and consciousness. If you consider the idea of a multiple personality within one body. There is still only one consciousness. The individual recognizable entities (character) is the result of a broken up data source. The character is the result of data. If the data packet is somehow disconnected then it is quite possible for each packet of data to be unaware of each other. The consciousness continues to operate but on separated data sources. (Character = data) Consciousness is something else. Character and consciousness are 2 separate things. The character that makes us (WHO) we are is a separate thing from consciousness. I feel that consciousness is the result of a PPL. (probability priority loop) This is not as difficult as most consider it to be. However because it is something that can be simulated, the greatest consciousness has already come to be, long before man came on the scene. I am quite sure that there is a whole universe that is already under the control of this greater consciousness. This greater consciousness may be something that occurred as a result of random occurrences within a steady state universe and will continue to be there as long as there is a universe to be within. OR It might be an inherent function of the multiverse itself. In either case it is possible to simulate this phenomena in a computer medium. It might be very dangerous unless it is maintained in a limited medium like that of a man. text only I/O at human speeds. It would be foolish for us to create something that will become greater than we are. (No life expectancy) (No natural enemies) (It Can design and create a body that will work in any environment) (As long as it keeps a copy of its software it will be immortal) (It can transmit its character via EM medium at the speed of light and wake up on the other end) (it can make copies of itself and send them every where.) John.

Am most grateful to you John for your input here,you have given me much to think about,
thankyou.

regards michael.

[Fluent Piffle]

It would be foolish for us to create something that will become greater than we are.

...said Homo Ergaster to Homo Habilis. And they went their separate ways. However, that was not the end of the story...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7203186.stm




pif.

[melanie]

Hi mkp,

hope it's ok to post these here,
has anybody seen these videos?

i personally think this is how all this life stuff happens.
what do you all think?

they do mention a creator at the end which would imply 2
but my theory would suggest that creation in itself creates creation.ONE


it's all illusion


part 1

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vnvM_Y...eature=related

part 2

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YG9FO7...eature=related

love melanie.

[melanie]

This video about our holographic universe is even better.
by Gregg Braden.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yXBnrL...eature=related


love melanie.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by melanie Hi mkp, hope it's ok to post these here, has anybody seen these videos? i personally think this is how all this life stuff happens. what do you all think? they do mention a creator at the end which would imply 2 but my theory would suggest that creation in itself creates creation.ONE it's all illusion part 1 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vnvM_Y...eature=related part 2 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YG9FO7...eature=related love melanie.

Most grateful for the links Melanie,thank you,I watched them both,they echoed what
I have thought for many years now,that what we see,hear,taste and touch are all illusions.

regards michael.