[Profpat]

God MJA you really go out of your way to find the negative images in life. The nature scenes of ants bitting off the heads of other ants was pretty gross also, as was the battles between the bees and hornets.

What they do in Darfur they do in Darfur, it's their lives.

So back to our main purpose JOY and LIFE.

I HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR LIFE MJA, AS MUCH AS I ENJOY MY LIFE.

Best to you,

Pat

[MJA]

Originally Posted by Profpat God MJA you really go out of your way to find the negative images in life. The nature scenes of ants bitting off the heads of other ants was pretty gross also, as was the battles between the bees and hornets. What they do in Darfur they do in Darfur, it's their lives. So back to our main purpose JOY and LIFE. I HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR LIFE MJA, AS MUCH AS I ENJOY MY LIFE. Best to you, Pat

If the purpose is joy and life, then shouldn't it be shared equally.
You don't see a need or have a desire to help those who have no joy, only suffering?
You don't believe in an equality of life for everyone, equality of everything?
Are you living in a state of denial, a denial of human suffering, that it does not exist?
Is it only your joy and life and mine as you say, that matters?
Surely you would help someone in terrible need, wouldn't you?
Equality is all about that, isn't it?

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[Profpat]

Don't Judge Me Mja

[MJA]

Those were only questions Professor to understand your dismissal of the terrible troubles in the world, I think, know your a good guy.
How can you say that all is joy with such suffering as in Dafur?

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[Profpat]

.".....Those who wish to attain oneness must practice undiscriminating virtue. They must dissolve all ideas of duality: good and bad, beautiful and ugly, high and low. They will be obliged to abandon any mental bias born of cultural or religious belief. Indeed, they should hold their minds free of any thought which interferes with their understanding of the universe as a harmonious oneness. The beginning of these practices is the beginning of liberation. "
Hua Hu Ching ( Seven )

( http://www.cheraglibrary.org/taoist/hua-hu-ching.htm )

Best,

Pat

[Profpat]

The purpose of S'rî Vyuha is to provide the knowledge and techniques for initiating the transformation of human consciousness into the eternal bliss of Brahman Consciousness - the ultimate achievement of a human existence.
Brahman Consciousness is that supreme level of life in which your every thought, word and act is spontaneously in accord with the Will of God. One who lives in Brahman Consciousness is literally the Divine incarnate, always acting in perfect accord with all the Laws of Nature and radiating a life supporting and uplifting influence to everyone he or she contacts.
A lifetime in which Brahman Consciousness is attained is sublime beyond description on all levels. There is no higher aspiration for life and the amazing truth is that Brahman Consciousness is open to all sincere individuals...

And I wish Life and Joy to all people, and hope that EVERYONE enjoys their life.

Best,

Pat

[MJA]

Originally Posted by Profpat .".....Those who wish to attain oneness must practice undiscriminating virtue. They must dissolve all ideas of duality: good and bad, beautiful and ugly, high and low. They will be obliged to abandon any mental bias born of cultural or religious belief. Indeed, they should hold their minds free of any thought which interferes with their understanding of the universe as a harmonious oneness. The beginning of these practices is the beginning of liberation. " Hua Hu Ching ( Seven ) ( http://www.cheraglibrary.org/taoist/hua-hu-ching.htm ) Best, Pat

Their is no such thing as duality in Darfur, in genocide, in suffering; it is never right, good, beautiful, or high; suffering is only wrong, bad, ugly, and low. Ridding ourselves of such terribleness will not be achieved by denying it, but rather addressing it, addressing suffering by helping those so afflicted, stopping those who cause it, and then only denying that such suffering should ever happen again. Liberation or freedom is not a mindless state of denial as some religions practice, but rather is a state of true equality, where and when only true freedom will ever reign. Our only chance for such a state of liberation is in the practice of "undiscriminating virtue," and that is the equitable practice of goodness, of equality, of not just all people, but equally all things.

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[Profpat]

So is the yang good and the yin bad; or is it that the yin is good and the yang bad.

Can't you see the beauty of complementary opposites?

If you try to eliminate the evil you perceive, you'll only create evil elsewhere.

Your world, as I understand it, would be gray, without distinction.

Surely help those who need your help MJA, that is virtue.

I guess you and I will just have to disagree on this.

Best,

Pat

[MJA]

Originally Posted by Profpat So is the yang good and the yin bad; or is it that the yin is good and the yang bad. Can't you see the beauty of complementary opposites? If you try to eliminate the evil you perceive, you'll only create evil elsewhere. Your world, as I understand it, would be gray, without distinction. Surely help those who need your help MJA, that is virtue. I guess you and I will just have to disagree on this. Best, Pat

Is Yin/yang the duality of good or bad, I don't know.
I do know their is no "beauty of complementary opposites," or duality in Darfur's genocide, and no duality in the direction we must go, that we all must help.
My world if up to me would be good, right, equal, and free even on a grey day.
You disagree?

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[Drifter]

Thanks, and well spoken Michael,
I see what yer sayin bro.

The experience of being a No body, is, outa-this-world!

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Yes indeed I do Pat,where shall I start?What is the measure of man?The word you use is a scientific term(emperically)are we then scientific Pat?Science understands connections,and accepts them to a limited point,they stop at the connection between the Absolute and all existence,because it is I suppose un-scientific! Science and spirituality will eventually meld into one,this is already beginning to happen this day,soon it will be more wide spread and accepted. The recognision and acceptence of the human soul by science is only a short while away, soon it will be seen as real,when that happens the connections will become very obvious. I know to you Pat this "idea" is a thesis,a theory,to me though it is a living reality,and has been so for many years. So in closing I would say "WE" are our own laboratory and can experiment from within ourselves we know the reality of the interconnections within our core -be-ing just measure that against the arising ideas that well up from your core when tapped into then see if they correlate with another friend doing the same thing,it will not take you too long to see and understand the emperical data thus gathered. regards michael.