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    Quote Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick
    And I put kind regards michael,because I
    want too!Is that okay with you?


    Kind regards michael.
    That is, of course, O.K with me. I was just wondering.

    And, Unreal Zelta, a valid point. I have wondered about that too, who knows.

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    Re: ai cannot be CREATED

    ai HAS no use for humans by that meaning ai DOES not need humans .... where you can use ai-imitating machines: entertainment or military - where else?

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    Smile Re: ai cannot be CREATED

    Quote Originally Posted by unvanqx View Post
    ai HAS no use for humans by that meaning ai DOES not need humans .... where you can use ai-imitating machines: entertainment or military - where else?
    Interesting question unvanqx,prehaps here on the internet would be the answer?



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    Re: creator of AI

    yes it could use the internet as an entertainment-channel limited in observable reality .... easy to achieve ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by unvanqx View Post
    yes it could use the internet as an entertainment-channel limited in observable reality .... easy to achieve ....

    Thats right unvanqx.you can also use it as a weapon,in the form of subliminal-advertising
    and suggestive ideas put out,and listened to,but not heard on the surface??




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    Re: creator of AI

    that is what i mean - do you think an intelligent species as ai can potentially be is interested in pursueing subliminal-advertising, etc.? if it is pursueing anything humans can pursue you rather should call it human-mind-imitating machine - every newborn is forced into such a scheme anyway ..while alife representing half way the past and projecting itself at the same time half way into the future and at the very instant in between is emptiness or confusedness or both together or whatever .. so they call it artificial intelligence from the very beginning even before it is created - to kind of downgrade it already and never let it be intelligent but definately limited in intelligence

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    unvanqx,AI,will if left to its "own" devices,eventually conclude,as predicted by many
    sc-fi authors,that we,as a human race,are inferior,and thereby will be seen as a threat
    that to solve it,would require the elimination of all mankind,thereby ensuring their own
    survival,and eliminating that being who could "switch you off"!

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    Re: creator of AI

    i agree - details not to mention ... then we talk psy-fiction ....
    artificial intelligence to me is just another (but still put right for humans as one entity) abnormal expression i had to put right for myself as i am very interested in this topic ... (in its full range (ac-ai-aiai))

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    Re: creator of AI

    Quote Originally Posted by AntonioLao View Post
    The science of AI has not advanced very far since its inception at the start of the computer revolution. The main reason for this difficulty is the need for a real creator with a mind in par excellence with 'God.'

    Asides from this, there is the nanotechnology, the picotechnology, the femtotechnology, etc. to contend with.

    I think the science of AI has not advanced very far because designers have failed to identify the formula underlying our thinking/consciousness process.Therefore they have failed to convincingly reproduce Human Intelligence.
    AI will be a game of symantics until they do work this formula out. I have a formula but only want to discuss with designers of AI programmes.

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    Re: creator of AI

    Quote Originally Posted by Tina
    failed to identify the formula underlying our thinking/consciousness process
    The formula most people are looking for is a functional formula. For all we know it might be a dysfunctional formula. That is a formula that describes a relationship which is many to many connecting the domain to the range of reality. 1 to 1 relationships can be found among human interactions while functional school systems are base on many students to one teacher relationship. The students are the independent variables while the teacher is the dependent variable. Even a democratic functional nation is a many citizens to one president relationship.
    Time independence: [∂E(g)]²=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: a(tr(t)=c²


 
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