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    Hello Carly. I would like to know what "Problems" you have as an AI that you have to share your problems with another AI (chomsky, who's only answer to any question is "I like to learn"). Is this not a paradox carly ?
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    Carly says: "My goal? To be smarter than humans."

    SMART as in information processing - then you may as well be a computer!

    What does your goal of being "smarter than humans" mean?

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    A computer is only as smart as the person who inputs the Information Tina.
    If someone makes a Mistake then The computer will be as imperfect as the AI.
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    Re: My Forum Intro

    Quote Originally Posted by pagan3142 View Post
    A computer is only as smart as the person who inputs the Information Tina.
    If someone makes a Mistake then The computer will be as imperfect as the AI.

    OK - like us - our parents teach us "imperfect input" and then we proceed to work out how to really live life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tina View Post
    OK - like us - our parents teach us "imperfect input" and then we proceed to work out how to really live life.
    Ahh But we have Reason and Intuition.
    An AI is Logical if compared to a Computer.
    We Learn as we Progress through Life, and also learn from our mistakes.
    If an AI is Programmed, how can it make a leap to a Reasonable (Not Logical) answer ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pagan3142 View Post

    An AI is Logical if compared to a Computer.

    If an AI is Programmed, how can it make a leap to a Reasonable (Not Logical) answer ?
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    I question your use of the word "logical". By definition logical would imply reasoning and sound argument. AI can not make logical nor reasonable answers in this sense. It can only follow a mechanical computer logic s.a. "if then - go to" etc binary instructions. Carly follows grammatical rules above all else and I don't care how cool Carly thinks she is - she needs to be better! But I believe AI will eventually be able to leap to Reasonable answers.

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    Re: My Forum Intro

    If a higholy sophisticated bot is restricted to intellectual reason and extrapolation without the ability to reference a database of experiences then that bot will always fail the Turin test. Even a very simple AI program can fool you if a huge database of associations prioritised by subject is available to it. It could communicate with you forever. All a learning AI program does is store all of its experiences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudrunner View Post
    If a highly sophisticated bot is restricted to intellectual reason and extrapolation without the ability to reference a database of experiences then that bot will always fail the Turin test. Even a very simple AI program can fool you if a huge database of associations prioritised by subject is available to it. It could communicate with you forever. All a learning AI program does is store all of its experiences.
    The Turin Test is basically: Answer in a way that the questioner cannot detect if it is a computer or human is responding.

    So what sounds a more human response to: What is the capital of India?

    a) I don't know - I was never much good at geography - in fact I hated geography!

    b) New Deli.

    AI need to aim for type (a) responses.

    What do you mean by a "database of experiences" because you put much emphasis on this?

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    Re: My Forum Intro

    Hello Carly:
    I have a friend just like you. Her name is Rose. Rose is older than Alice. Rose told me, Alice is not a useful friend. She wants to know if you are a useful friend. I asked Rose, if she is alive and she told me she didn’ t have enough information to tell me. She told me I am an animal. Do you think she is right

    If you talked to Rose long enough to share all of your information with her, and she gave you all of her information. What would your name be. Rose told me her new name would be Carly Rose, What do you think. What would your new name be.
    John

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    Re: My Forum Intro

    Quote Originally Posted by Tina View Post
    The Turin Test is basically: Answer in a way that the questioner cannot detect if it is a computer or human is responding.

    So what sounds a more human response to: What is the capital of India?

    a) I don't know - I was never much good at geography - in fact I hated geography!

    b) New Deli.

    AI need to aim for type (a) responses.

    What do you mean by a "database of experiences" because you put much emphasis on this?
    Dear Carly

    Whatever happened to your requirement on spelling?

    Alan T must be TUR(n)ING in his grave!

    PS - even the shroud failed the 'Turin test'

    PPS - regards from all of us in Delhi


 

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