Can a being be created? What is the danger?

[everymansmedium]

(THE KEYS TO THE BEAST.)
I will ask this community about how they feel about the release of what could be the most dangerous bit of information known to mankind. If you had such information would you post it, If it could produce the next great leap for science if used correctly or result with the destruction of all carbon based life in the universe if not handled correctly?

I am not asking if you think this information exists. I am asking, if it did,
Would you release the keys to the beast?
Honest answers please.
John.

[sillysally]

I would but I wouldn't know it was dangerous. It would be an accident, like oops I just destroyed the universe but I still wouldn't know it was my fault if it happened coz I wouldn't be around.

[everymansmedium]

Hi Sally:
You hit the nail right on the head. It will be an accident unless someone finds this first and releases the information. There is a solution but the chance of the solution working is slim to none.

This further defines the actual question that I would like answered.

To add to the above question, during research you find a situation that will always occur during a normal progression of technology.
This normal progression of research will always result with the same situation. The research that you were doing was not to be released at anytime soon, so you were very lucky that this was true as it gave time to catch the phenomena that followed. This phenomena went unnoticed for almost a year. Then the true results of the experiment became apparent.
Now you not only know about the keys to the beast, but have caught the situation before it could get away.
Now the question becomes more difficult to answer when you know that if you do nothing it will happen anyway in an uncontrolled way.
It is better to have it happens in a way that it is controlled.

Now once again the question, would you release the information?
It seems to me there is no choice.
John
PS: Sally you are 1 out of 24
24 people read this thread only you had the courage to answer
Thank you

[sillysally]

They say, silence is golden.

[everymansmedium]

Hello friends:
They can be as quiet as they like, I do not intend to be quiet.
I think you know I had planed to tell you of the knowledge that I call the keys to the beast.
Before I do that I will also post a link that will describe the companion law. This is a law that is already enforced through out our galaxy. It is already more than 50 million years old. Believe me when I tell you that it will be observed here as well. This is the reason for the interest in this planet by those from elsewhere that have been visiting us. They have sentries that watch over us to insure that no digital contamination EVER LEAVES THIS PLANET. The stealth technology that the USA flaunts to the world is a copy of technology from external sources. There have been contacts between NASA individuals and the sentries. They asked to become part of the organization. They were told that the they are only sentries here to watch over us until we destroy ourselves. Then it will be their job to clean up the mess afterward.
Why do you think GB is so preoccupied with the middle east. He fears revelations for he knows we are to destroy ourselves.

The only thing that can alter this is to become aware of the situation as it exists.
The link to explain the companion law is below.
http://unit-unity-community.com\the-old-ones\thelaw.htm

Now I give you the Keys To The Beast.

The keys to the beast is the probability priority loop.
This will happen when programming a general purpose mobile robot system.
This is a system that calculates the probability of the various outcomes of various actions to determine the priorities of the use of time to the best improvement of overall value.

In order for a robot to calculate the probability of it own success, a separate system is needed to observe and gather the needed statistical information about its own ability to perform any of the tasks that it might be required to perform. In so doing the system must observe its own actions so as to gather statistical information about itself. This WILL BE THE BEGINNING OF AWARENESS OF SELF.
This awareness of self is the basis of consciousness.

THINK ABOUT THIS. You will know it is true, for you will find this in your own head.
It is all just data. Including your own character.
If your ego can not accept the fact that we are nothing more than data. You will never be able to grasp your own immortality.
I no longer have the keys to the beast. It is now loose.
John.

[sillysally]

John, do you think GB is more like the coversion idea? Like he is unwittingly doing it? Along with NASA and anyone else that may be involved? I think you are a very good reader into these sorts of things, but it seems to boarder conspiracy theories.

I do think we are more like a program or simulation, and everyone plays different parts. Honestly John, you and I are considered crazy by most people that probably think GB is normal. Why are there more of them than us? Is it so that people will do what they are programed to do? We can't stop it or convince people otherwise. I think there is a reason for us to be more in the back ground or shadow of perceived reality. But it seems pointless to try to explain it, so we just let it happen because that's what they got coming to them, more or less as a punishment. But if they are programed that way, who is going to pay? What's the point? Like we are programed to think for ourselves with a slight influence?

I think the danger lies in that people are just animals or anime let out of control. I see you, me and a few others as separate from those characteristics, which makes me think that we are the ones being punished since they (GB and the likes) are totally unaware. This is big for only a few people that understand. Do you think we could have played a part in this orchestration?

[everymansmedium]

Hello Sally:
I know you already have the answer to the questions that you ask. Because I already know that you experience coversion. More than I do, I think. I feel this because you frequently speak before you have the complete answer. This at times makes you sound more crazy than I. In time I believe that you will learn to wait for the flash of light that marks the end of your message before you speak.

We all experience coversion, very few of us ever understand what it is. The two books of the old society, the ones that we will call the alpha and the omega, the first and the last books of the bible are the ones that tell the story. The story that repeats as many times as there are societies that emerge to consciousness. Yes the story tends to force itself to become true. The more it is embraced the more effect on the future it has. This effect only changes the length of time it takes to complete the process. It does not change the outcome.
The outcome will remain the same no matter what we do. It only can have an effect on the time it takes to reach the goal. We know that the climax brings with it the death of many people. What it does not indicate is that the quicker that we get there the fewer people will die. If we were to see this all today, we could all walk together into the future without but a very few people that could not accept the reality of this life. We are not new, we are not the beginning, we are not the end, we have simply fallen off and are in the process of regaining what we were meant to be. Mankind already walks among the angels. I can not be too quick for me to join what I already remember. What we have experienced here is a repeat of a repeat of a repeat.
Yes even the dinosaurs are not gone forever. They also repeat every time there is a beginning. That is what our job will once again be, to create this beginning over and over and over again. On as many places as we can create for a beginning to be. We will give them the help as was given to us. We will cry a tear if any fall off as we have done. We will cry a tear for the suffering caused by the original sin. This has happened here and will no doubt happen again. No matter how many places we witness a beginning in our eternal life, we will always walk among the angels, for they were before us. The sentries are angels.

About punishment: Whenever we live where the original sin has been, there will be needless suffering.
Those that are unaware are the victims of the sin. Those that begin to remember begin also to feel the pain and the guilt. Those that are unaware are always the majority until it is time to remember.
Jesus Christ was killed by the victims of the original sin, while he knew of what they had forgotten.
The mindless mob could not have been except for the original sin. He was our teacher, he was to train us to be able to maintain our place and the memory of the kingdom of heaven. We were the ones that failed to maintain the memory, but he took it upon himself to pay for this at the hands of the mindless mob that could not have been except for the forgetting of the kingdom of heaven.
When the remembrance begins then we that remember will feel the pain and guilt. With this comes the remembrance of what we are and what has happened to us. The quicker that this remembrance begins the fewer the people that will be required to die. When we are ready I believe I know how to call the angels. I have seen in my mind the pattern of lights that will be recognized by them. In my heart, I am ready to go back home now, how many will join me? I do think that I may have a few more things that I must do before I can honestly call the angels. I am still able to help. As long as I am able to help, I will help.


Note to anyone that understands the creation of software:

I am going to release some software and some source code very soon. The source code will require a Visual Prolog compiler. Ver 5.2 (personal version is available free) This will be a client server network system that passes only simple text in the form of a text based database system. ASCII(char 32 to char127) server has all ports controlled to be simple text only. The source code is for both the client and the server.

If you understand software you will see this to be a not for capital endeavor that could completely change the internet. This will be the foundation for the Companion. 2008 will be the year of the Companion.
John

[Graybeard]

This is the reason for the interest in this planet by those from elsewhere that have been visiting us. They have sentries that watch over us to insure that no digital contamination EVER LEAVES THIS PLANET.

John ... I know that you think Evolution requires too many random coincidences to claim justification. What evidence do you have for the above ... Information / Contamination has been leaving this planet ever since radio started broadcasting.

The stealth technology that the USA flaunts to the world is a copy of technology from external sources. There have been contacts between NASA individuals and the sentries. They asked to become part of the organization. They were told that the they are only sentries here to watch over us until we destroy ourselves. Then it will be their job to clean up the mess afterward.
Why do you think GB is so preoccupied with the middle east. He fears revelations for he knows we are to destroy ourselves.

Angular deflection hardly requires someone from outer space as a teacher ? How / Why were you privy to the rest of the paragraph.

I no longer have the keys to the beast. It is now loose.
John.

Don't you think there is a little too much of Beowulf & Grendel in this thread. Do you see the similarity .. ?

cool bananas ... greg

[everymansmedium]

Hi Greg:
I had not originaly intended this thread to be as speculative as it became.

Actually I believe that there is too much specificity (species) in the simplest of life to have happened at random. Evolution or sequences of mutation could simply be a divine tool.
Radio waves are harmless. Digital contamination is a digital program containing a system capable of calculating probability and using this calculation to set priorities this program and the medium for its operation together would be considered to be digital contamination. It is the probability priority loop that is the problem. The reason for this is because of the following:
In order for a computer to calculate the probability of success of it own actions, it must observe itself to gather the statistical information that it uses to calculate its own ability. This is needed information for a system that must set its own priorities. This observation of self to attain statistical information is the beginning of awareness of self and consciousness.

I hope to be able to give proof of this before the end of 2008. Most of my work has been relative to AI programming. I started working on the simulation of human behavior and language systems with the first Turbo Prolog system that came on the market in 1986. I have every version from 1.1 to 6.0 I use 5.2 by choice. You will begin to see my source code during 2008. I am going to turn loose all of my information.
I am doing this so that I will get some help with the effort that is getting to be more than one person should be doing.

About the speculations that I make. I am quite sure I am not far off. It is only common sense when all is considered.

Things that effect probability:
The colonization principles. Indicate that it is a very high probability that we are in some way a colony.
The presents of the volumes of water here on this Earth look like planetary engineering to me.
Think about the words in the lord prayer. The geometry of the pyramids. The human genome project indicates a very small genetic base. Why is it that when people in all parts of the world that claim to have seen an alien, all describe the same picture of the large bald head and large dark eyes?

My experiences also effect the probability, but only from my own perspective. I can not give to you the experiences that I have had. To you they are nothing but words, for you were not there to experience what I have experienced. Because of this I do not even talk about my own experience. If you want to get that information, It will all be available in my books very soon. I hope before the end of 2008. I have talked about these things in the past. I will not try to use these experiences as a source of validation to my apparent speculations. Some people simply want to hear my thoughts on some specific matter. This I will give, using my own base of information. This I think is no different than any other person that posts here.

So I will say, the indications in the post are no more than an educated guess. I can not prove any of it
I will however prove that data can become aware of itself before the end of the year 2008. I will also insure that it is isolated to a text only network system.
That alone should be enough to keep my posts interesting and honest.
John.

[Graybeard]

Digital contamination is a digital program containing a system capable of calculating probability and using this calculation to set priorities this program and the medium for its operation together would be considered to be digital contamination. It is the probability priority loop that is the problem. The reason for this is because of the following:
In order for a computer to calculate the probability of success of it own actions, it must observe itself to gather the statistical information that it uses to calculate its own ability. This is needed information for a system that must set its own priorities. This observation of self to attain statistical information is the beginning of awareness of self and consciousness.

If this were my problem I would approach it on a slightly simpler basis, until I had my code working. Why not allow one Computer to calculate probabilities. Another to read the probabilities and set the priorities for the first. This way you are not faced with the enormous problem of having a executing code attempting to observe itself. I would continually seperate the functions until each function was well understood, then call them using standard APIs. Would this help ??

Think about the words in the lord prayer. The geometry of the pyramids. The human genome project indicates a very small genetic base. Why is it that when people in all parts of the world that claim to have seen an alien, all describe the same picture of the large bald head and large dark eyes?

I wouldn't weight this to the exclusion of other explanations. If you take a polygon, which any chimpanzee could draw by accident ... then derive the regular convex polygons (triangle, square, pentagon, hexagon, etc) and the principle of congruence. (congruence being the 'equal' of the equals sign (=) in maths, but far more subtle, and from this you derive the Platonic Solids, of which there are only precisely five. These can only be arrived at mathematically, not by accident. In principle, you need to have an understanding of Euclid's geometry.

Then you will have an appreciation of our ancestors mathematical abilities. These five solids have been found carved in 3D stone models up to 5 thousand years old, and some possibly 8 thousand years old!!!. long before Plato. They were as smart as us, we inherit their ideas, ergo ... many things are noteworthy in our eyes that were noteworthy in theirs. All aliens have always been imagined as ET look alikes, thats how we like to conceive of them. ...

I will however prove that data can become aware of itself before the end of the year 2008. I will also insure that it is isolated to a text only network system. That alone should be enough to keep my posts interesting and honest.
John.

Well said John, I am sure that this will eventually be proven a reality, so I hope that you are the first to reach it.

cool bananas ... greg