The Creation of a Being. (software - predicate calculus)

[everymansmedium]

I will discuss the process of this software creation.
If any wish to be involved.
I will show the predicates as they develop with an explanation of there function.
Are there any Prolog programmers here?

Do you think it should be done as open source?
Do you think those that see this will keep the rules of isolation to text?
Do you think that people believe that there is a danger if it is not isolated?

I will start with some of the best predicates that were used in past systems and build from there.
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This is a proposal for a thread relative to the approval of Robert. that this thread is part of a viable search for the TOE by the ability to understand what is involved in the attempt to create a being and to shed some light on what consciousness might be.
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John

[everymansmedium]

Ok it is very quiet.
Is this because there is no interest in this thread.

PC, is not so difficult.
simple example of inference in a declaritive style of programming. If you could follow this you could follow any of it.

can a sparrow fly?
can a penguin fly?
is a penguin a bird?

query format for above questions:
can-fly(sparrow).
can-fly(penguin).
is-a(bird,penguin).

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rules:
can-fly(X) if is-a(bird,X),not is-a(bird,flightless,X).
is-a(bird,X) if is-a(bird,flightless,X).

data:
is-a(bird,sparrow).
is-a(bird,flightless,penguin).

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This same kind of logic can be applied to anything.
John

[everymansmedium]

I would not be posting out of subject in other peoples thread, if there was anybody to talk to here.
Did I forget my deodorant?

[gunnar]

have you read the holy grail? it explains these things. if you dont want to read the whole thing, skip to the consciousness part.
thank you.

[candellightpoet]

In order to be, you have to be created, so Yes I believe you can create a being,

As to the quality of that being... rests on how well that creator studies or understands itself,,, thus the study of all knowledge

[Mikal]

Upon birth we are an uncompleted being...at the mercy of the family, society and world which receives us....the creations fill the world....its perplexing....there has to be a paradoxical gap between humanization and possible dehumanization....this could be an age old problem like who created the creator who is the creator of us...

Do we as creators create our own monsters in society as well as our genuises and everybody in between??? Gee...if we are capable of creating our own societal monsters and I deplore using that derogatory term but man capable to viciously kill man seems to me "dehumanized." Have we put any thought into ourselves as creators??? Might we be held out to some particular ethical responsibility that we have failed to grasp????? Should we attempt to figure that out????????


Mikal

[timeparticle]

Upon birth we are an uncompleted being...at the mercy of the family, society and world which receives us....the creations fill the world....its perplexing....there has to be a paradoxical gap between humanization and possible dehumanization....this could be an age old problem like who created the creator who is the creator of us...

Do we as creators create our own monsters in society as well as our genuises and everybody in between??? Gee...if we are capable of creating our own societal monsters and I deplore using that derogatory term but man capable to viciously kill man seems to me "dehumanized." Have we put any thought into ourselves as creators??? Might we be held out to some particular ethical responsibility that we have failed to grasp????? Should we attempt to figure that out????????


Mikal

Ok, everyman, lets say we are in a huge matrix covering the whole universe and it is actually a program run by an architect. The architect wants the program to run so that the players, us, learn about the program, the architect, the reason for the program, and the purpose and end result of the program.

Then, us, trying to create AI becomes a paradox as we are already AI, and are living and breathing in an AI program. We may, inevitably, find the architect, and realize our purpose in the program, but will we like it?

Then again, we may wake up finding ourselves in a large tube full of synthetic fluid, as a large robotic arm releases us into a huge ocean on a large green planet, in a distant galaxy, as soon as we discover the truth...

TP