[dleviwing]

Energy and mass are both measured quantities (dimensions) of an entity called matter. Mass is based on the inertia property and is not matter even though many tend to confuse this fact. There are references to an entity of energy as an autonomous entity of the universe and thus the assumption that this energy can be considered as matter. Some people consider energy as the base substance of the universe and others, including myself, consider the base substance is physical and thus matter.

[subversion]

Originally Posted by dleviwing

This thread shows the fundamental problem with science today. Take a simple hypothetical statement and debate it and add opinions until you get a concept of pure nonsense beyond the intent of the original poster who started it. Now all of you should be able to understand why Relativity and Quantum mechanics are so weird. The added addendums have disrupted the original ideas.

in the equation E=MC2 the M refers to either one of two synonymous terms, matter or mass. Matter and mass mean the exact same thing in science.

[subversion]

in other words, there is only one way to measure matter/mass. If matter and mass were different, we could measure them separately, but we can't.

[dleviwing]

Originally Posted by subversion

in the equation E=MC2 the M refers to either one of two synonymous terms, matter or mass. Matter and mass mean the exact same thing in science. So anybody who claims that mass is different than matter is either a.) a moron or b.) creating a meaningless semantical argument.

Sub;
Would you care to share your source of information. I know it is not in any physics text books so you must be reading an internet site of one of your choice (a) individuals or just your own choice (a) opinion.

[subversion]

Why don't you ask yourself that question wise guy? Also ask yourself this question, how can you measure mass without measuring matter?

And here's from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company

Matter Physics. Something that has mass and exists as a solid, liquid, gas, or plasma

[mkirkpatrick]

Energy is not matter,although it appears to be,the operative word being Appears tobe,whatit really is Is thought made manifest and projected from the noumenon
to become phenomenon via for want of a better word,the Protyle Atom,of course we can all play with words,whatever you call it it remains the same!



kind regards michael

[dleviwing]

Originally Posted by subversion

And here's from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company

Matter Physics. Something that has mass and exists as a solid, liquid, gas, or plasma

Sub;
Thank you for showing me that The American Heritage® Dictionary agrees with me. I was of course, already aware of that.
You may wish to review my thread "Dimensions and Entities"; it will help you evaluate what is the entity (matter) and what is the dimension of measurement (mass).

[mkirkpatrick]

We use words,like a fish uses water to make a motion,matter,energy,space as an entity,all these words are really meaning the same thing,there is only one
source of power,or energy in the universe,and all that comes from mind,universal
mind,thoughts made manifest,ideation and focussed intent,thats where it is all at.whatever you call it,It will remain the same,and act the same.




regards michael.

[Mohan.C]

Sub;
you are made of millions of cells, organs. Shall we call you a body or should we call you organ of organs. Mass is the stuff that is in the matter. Matter is what we can feel. We measure matter by dimensions like length breadth height etc.. But mass is measured on the terms of energy. Its like all the people which make a country but it is actually that people are constituents of the country.

[dleviwing]

Originally Posted by Mohan.C

Sub;
Mass is the stuff that is in the matter. Matter is what we can feel.

Mohan;
In your analogy we would describe you as having height, weight, hair color, and so on. The term "MASS" is to matter as weight is to you. It is not the stuff that matter is made of, it is a measured characteristic of physical substance based on the inertial property of matter (resistance to change of motion).