[Mr. Nobody]

In the spirit of the wave nature of all elementary particles, what else is matter made of? Matter waves are exactly that. They represent a form of energy. Particles are being coaxed out from nothing more than the crash of high speed collisions.
Like ice crystals form from water when cooled down: It is my rude understanding of cosmology that a release of energy after a quantum flactuation caused an inflaton field to expand and then stabilize as the value of this field settled again. When this field dramatically slowed its expansion, most of the expansion energy was converted into matter which showed up as elementary particles once it was cool enough. This process seems to me very much like frost formation from cooling of humid air (cooling = energy extraction)
So what else is matter made of?
What else is the most elementary and the simplest ingredient of the cosmos?

[dleviwing]

Is energy going to refer to the force produced by the motion of matter, or is it going to be another entity of the universe coexisting with a fundamental physical substance of matter?

What are "matter waves"?
What is meant by "Form of Energy"?
What constitutes a "Field"?

Think about the terminology you are using and realize how abstract and ambiguous it sounds when analyzed. You must separate the philosophy of the Entity and the Measurement.

Any interaction that does not exchange substance, does not exchange anything else. Energy is constant in all systems.

[Mohan.C]

What are "matter waves"?
I have the definition in my text books my exams are finished and I will not look it up again (just kiddin). Matter waves were described by De- broglie. I think Matter waves are associated with the probability of finding something.

What is meant by "Form of Energy"?
What is Form of energy is explained by the question itself.

What constitutes a "Field"?
Field lines constitute a field.

[Mr. Nobody]

David;
I am very aware of the difficulty to separate measurement from entity, units of measurement from reality or true existence. When I look at the uncertainty principle, I see the same duality of measurement and entity. Fundamental waves, the propabilties of existence, IMHO constitute the only true reality and observation (most fundamentally the determination of momentum or location, spin, charge...) measure aspects or attributes of this energy/matter wave, therefore turning observation into an imposter of existence, the particle.
How to separate observation or measurement from true reality/ fundamental entity has been the topic of many discussions.

However, if we continue down the microscope past the uncertainty principle and apply reason to measurement, we must interprete our findings logically. What I understand from reading your writings, the term matter, the way you use, is nothing more than the most fundamental entity, unmeasured, undetermined, undefined raw material, umbiquous in its makeup.
If we continue to define the fundamental entity as matter, then we never resolve the final question of what matter really is?

Every action needs some form of energy. Energy was never created, energy just is. As this cycle of reality began, as space, time and stuff was set in motion, there was nothing tangible at the beginning. There was a field, oscillating in its values, a field stable, but still jittery with quantum flactuation as all things are. Randum flactuations of this field happen to jump the field on a value that caused the sudden release of stored energy in a tremdous burst of inflation (the creation of near flat space). As continued quantum flactuation of the same field settled back on more propable values (non 0 minimums), the field stopped inflating space and dumped its energy into the cosmos with the creation of matter. And this is my explanation of the intimate connection of all fundamental particles with the underlying field that created them.

[dleviwing]

If we continue to define the fundamental entity as matter, then we never resolve the final question of what matter really is?

Mr. Nobody;
We can only define that; "Matter is the fundamental physical substance of the universe." What we are debating is that; "Is this definition true"? If true then all phenomena, positive particles, negative particles, antimatter, and so on, are either interactions of this substance or structures of this substance.

Every action needs some form of energy. Energy was never created, energy just is.

Energy, like force, is the motion state of matter or an interaction of motion between matter. The forms of energy only define the specific motions or interactions. Energy represents the measure of a change in motion or a state of motion. Mass however, defines a specific state and type of motion – uniform moton.

As this cycle of reality began, as space, time and stuff was set in motion, there was nothing tangible at the beginning.

There is absolutely no way for anyone to proof that there was a beginning of existence. This falls in the category of religion and has just as much scientific credibility as religion. (see my thread "The Geneses Hypothesis"). This is actually the "FINAL QUESTION"; Was there a beginning or has existence always been?

If you have read my threads, you know that my view is that matter when in a state such that all its motion is total uniform motion (linear velocity), it condenses to its most solid form of matter (Infinite mass). A perfect collision of objects of matter in this state of motion would result in the linear uniform motion to be converted to vibrations and thus the wave nature of matter that resulted in the rapid expanse into the universe. Angular uniform motion confined matter into localized units of standing wave matter.

The volume of the universe prevents the formation of wave symmetry; However the finite small volume of particles produce wave symmetry of both the matter of the particle and the environmental matter (ether) surrounding the particle.

I enjoy discussions with people like you who have such excellent reasoning skills.
Thanks;

[HappytheStripper]

Assume that Energy is Matter. Both things are exactly the same, E=M. But don't be confused....... and I am confused.... because....

what if ...... M=E????

.... that and Im blonde!

[mkirkpatrick]

They are one and the same,"free energy" which flows in a liquid like state,is
of a higher frequency thats all!Matter is energy in torpor,lower frequency,the
lower the frequency the denser the matter becomes.If you create excitement
in matter,it will begin to loose its dense cohesion,and dis-olve in a liquid like
state again.



kind regards michael.

[HappytheStripper]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick They are one and the same,"free energy" which flows in a liquid like state,is of a higher frequency thats all!Matter is energy in torpor,lower frequency,the lower the frequency the denser the matter becomes.If you create excitement in matter,it will begin to loose its dense cohesion,and dis-olve in a liquid like state again. kind regards michael.

That would be the same for people.... when you excite them enough!
Except we as people dont dis-solve... although the problems we entail mentally and emotionally that do matter may begin to solve... when exicted enough to want to solve them... because they matter to your wellbeing... and a matter of energy...... syncrhonise to re-order.... in an environment condusive to mental and emotional thought... however the density of energy changes into a more organised state.... instead of
dissolution becomes resolution.... which in turn frees up our energy.....