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    Re: Membranes are astral planes

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    Hi michael.I'll take this part of your post first.

    You say ''we'' are eternal ''beings'' ..... these concepts 'we' and 'beings' imply twoness.
    I'm under the understanding that all is One.

    ''One Being'' or ''One Consciousness'' being multiplicity.

    Also, you say that when the body that is the vehicle for energy consciousness dies, that energy consciousness animating the body then leaves the body and goes to the astral world.
    My question is.... does that energy once in the astral realm remember it once lived as a physical body on a planet called earth.
    And does it not find it a bit weird finding itself in a new realm without a body?
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    Re: Membranes are astral planes

    Quote Originally Posted by Meem View Post
    What would be worse, pretending to be god or gods, or letting others think either? Maybe there are branes where beings from are like "gods" here, but they aren't in reality. Maybe they have pretended to be, or allow themselves to be seen as gods. It seems to me pretending is bad, but allowing such a belief to carry is even worse.
    Pretending to be God would most likely be a death sentence, like all other humans / would be jealous (feeling a lack of entitlement) of anyone who experience for free (not without effort) aTruth that they don't get. lol
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Cayce

    Personally, I have my flaws, I'm not perfect, never will be, until death finally sets me free from this vessel and "I" (True Self / Spirit / Atman] return to the river / Ocean / Brahma / God.
    http://www.filestube.com/t/there+is+a+river+edgar+cayce


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    Re: Membranes are astral planes

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    Hi michael.I'll take this part of your post first.

    You say ''we'' are eternal ''beings'' ..... these concepts 'we' and 'beings' imply twoness.
    I'm under the understanding that all is One.

    ''One Being'' or ''One Consciousness'' being multiplicity.

    Also, you say that when the body that is the vehicle for energy consciousness dies, that energy consciousness animating the body then leaves the body and goes to the astral world.
    My question is.... does that energy once in the astral realm remember it once lived as a physical body on a planet called earth.
    And does it not find it a bit weird finding itself in a new realm without a body?
    Melanie,at the absolute "level" there is but ONE,not many but one,however we are existing within "temporal" relative universe,(while being mindful that temporal can and does mean in earth time millions of years)I know time is an illusion,however in the relative sense it is easier to explain using it.In absolute reality there is just Absolute,we are anchored within this absoluteness while also being relative as well they both run together simultaneously,to keep it simple because its a vast subject,we are here and spend many many lives to find out eventually that the "I" is really GOD/Absolute and that "we" have no "real" existence as there is only the absolute,by the "time" we arrive at the full and awesome realation of this truth we will have lived countless lives here had a mulidtude of varying experiences,and will have shed the ego and false notions of what we are,and been in and out of the astral realm andthe dense physical realm.We can then when we arrive at this universal consciousness level choose the merge back into that absolute ocean and just BE,or choose to be of service where you can help a suffering soul find its way out of the darkness,love and compassion are the hallmarks of the divine intelligence in whom we live and move and have our being within.

    When we die,the elements take back what is theirs earth,air,fire ,water,you then exit the physical world and enter the astral world in your astral body,we have several bodies Melanie not just the physical,and yes you have total memory of whom you were,full and total recall.These are perfectly natural things and occur automatically and are seamless in there operation which is all acted out within natural law which is universal in its operation.

    You need to bare in mind Melanie that this is a vast subject,far too much to cover fully in a post here,even the astral realms are relative,they are not absolute reality,rather they are relative reality,there is a difference,our ultimate destiny is for perfect atonement with the Absolute by being Absolute? By then "you" will have long gone!However while waiting for this ultimate merging and at-one-ment we have millions of years of relative existence hopefully growing more and more inclusive and expanding in cosmic consciousness.

    hope this helps.

    warmest regards michael.
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    Re: Membranes are astral planes

    Quote Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick View Post
    Melanie,at the absolute "level" there is but ONE,not many but one,however we are existing within "temporal" relative universe,(while being mindful that temporal can and does mean in earth time millions of years)I know time is an illusion,however in the relative sense it is easier to explain using it.In absolute reality there is just Absolute,we are anchored within this absoluteness while also being relative as well they both run together simultaneously,to keep it simple because its a vast subject,we are here and spend many many lives to find out eventually that the "I" is really GOD/Absolute and that "we" have no "real" existence as there is only the absolute,by the "time" we arrive at the full and awesome realation of this truth we will have lived countless lives here had a mulidtude of varying experiences,and will have shed the ego and false notions of what we are,and been in and out of the astral realm andthe dense physical realm.We can then when we arrive at this universal consciousness level choose the merge back into that absolute ocean and just BE,or choose to be of service where you can help a suffering soul find its way out of the darkness,love and compassion are the hallmarks of the divine intelligence in whom we live and move and have our being within.
    I understand this michael. However, i would say that love and compassion is a tool humans use to aid their overall survival, love doesn't actually exist, its a feeling and an instinct.When we love we survive, so to speak.

    When we die,the elements take back what is theirs earth,air,fire ,water,you then exit the physical world and enter the astral world in your astral body,we have several bodies Melanie not just the physical,and yes you have total memory of whom you were,full and total recall.These are perfectly natural things and occur automatically and are seamless in there operation which is all acted out within natural law which is universal in its operation.
    I have not yet experienced this total recall of myself in the astral realm,so will have to wait until i die to confirm that.
    I mean i will have to wait until my illusory death.

    You need to bare in mind Melanie that this is a vast subject,far too much to cover fully in a post here,even the astral realms are relative,they are not absolute reality,rather they are relative reality,there is a difference,our ultimate destiny is for perfect atonement with the Absolute by being Absolute? By then "you" will have long gone!However while waiting for this ultimate merging and at-one-ment we have millions of years of relative existence hopefully growing more and more inclusive and expanding in cosmic consciousness.

    hope this helps.

    warmest regards michael.
    Please forgive me michael i do appreciate you taking your time out to explain this to me, but i'm not quite grasping the astral realm stuff, but i will think harder about this subject, and try picture it somehow.Thanks Michael, your so kind and your a gentleman i sense that deeply.

    I do have my own thoughts and ideas about what the astral realm is .. i will post them as soon as they come in words.

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