Membranes are astral planes

[Mr. Ignorant]

Let's assume these following statements to be true:

1. M-theory is right and membranes are real.

2. Other membranes than our own are actually "astral planes" that can be accessed with an OOBE (Out Of Body Experience).

Our universe is a membrane. At least I think that's what M-theory tells us. Or it's a multiverse. That doesn't really matter though. What is known is that there are multiple membranes that interact with each other via gravity.

Sometimes people experience a so-called OOBE. One leaves its physical body and can move anywhere. Even to other dimensions. Modern science thinks that these are dreams or hallucinations. They're not real. However in this scenario they are. In the world of membranes our astral body (separated from our physical body) could be made out of so-called entangled gravitons or whatever. What matters is that the astral body can escape its native membrane once it's separated from the physical.

I've been thinking about this idea a lot, but since I'm only one person with a limited mind I want to know your thoughts aswell. Give me something crazy and mind-boggling. :P

[Graybeard]

Let's assume these following statements to be true:

1. M-theory is right and membranes are real.

2. Other membranes than our own are actually "astral planes" that can be accessed with an OOBE (Out Of Body Experience).

I don't agree with the second assumption as OBE can best be described by other processes .... but wot the ph**** ... lets 'assume it to be true'

Our universe is a membrane. At least I think that's what M-theory tells us. Or it's a multiverse. That doesn't really matter though. What is known is that there are multiple membranes that interact with each other via gravity.

Sometimes people experience a so-called OOBE. One leaves its physical body and can move anywhere. Even to other dimensions. Modern science thinks that these are dreams or hallucinations. They're not real. However in this scenario they are. In the world of membranes our astral body (separated from our physical body) could be made out of so-called entangled gravitons or whatever. What matters is that the astral body can escape its native membrane once it's separated from the physical.

I've been thinking about this idea a lot, but since I'm only one person with a limited mind I want to know your thoughts aswell. Give me something crazy and mind-boggling. :P

Now that everyones astral body can escape its membrane ......

You take a taxi to the airport. You buy your ticket. You step thru wot looks like a standard body scanner. You step out at your destination.

The aviation industry goes broke. Millions are thrown out of work and everything associated with avionics becomes instantly redundant. Jails can no longer hold prisoners ... Husbands and wives can conduct thousands of affairs without ever being caught ... Natural disasters such as earthquakes and Tsunamis become quaint events for spectators to visit, just to see the show. Diving into Volcanoes becomes the most popular sport. Astral planing out at the last nano-second means many bodies are lost.

Assembled armies in full battle array can find no one to attack.

Personal belongings becomes an 'olde worlde term' that no one really understands anymore.

Eventually bodies (membranes) become redundant ... just something to step into for a party or sex .... doesn't matter whose is whose ... vacant bodies are everywhere, on everystreet corner. Most of them are fairly well used up .... disease, broken bones, dehydrated ... people look after them like they look after hired cars. Elle McPherson's and Britney Spears bodies are in terrible shape as every male on the planet fought desperately to get inside theirs.

The justice system is unenforceable ... everybody becomes a thief whenever anyone experiences the slightest want or need ....

The fabric of society disassembles ..... No new form of communality has yet evolved to cope ... we await, desperately, your proposed solution. You can find us lost happy souls almost anywhere anytime

rotflmao .... greg

[Mr. Ignorant]

Perhaps it's not that easy to leave the body. I didn't say anything about it being easy or difficult. It's also possible that (physical) dying makes you forget everything and reset your memory so that you can experience a new life without any prejudices.

Also perhaps membranes and bodies are redundant. That doesn't mean that you stop caring about life. And even if the physical body was comparable to a physical car in some way, that doesn't make someone stop caring about his car.

[Graybeard]

P And even if the physical body was comparable to a physical car in some way, that doesn't make someone stop caring about his car.

Perhaps he does care about his/her body in a sentimental kinda way .... but what is to stop others 'joy-riding' in it while he is astrally 'elsewhere' ??

greg

[Drifter]

Let's assume these following statements to be true:

1. M-theory is right and membranes are real.

2. Other membranes than our own are actually "astral planes" that can be accessed with an OOBE (Out Of Body Experience).

Our universe is a membrane. At least I think that's what M-theory tells us. Or it's a multiverse. That doesn't really matter though. What is known is that there are multiple membranes that interact with each other via gravity.

Sometimes people experience a so-called OOBE. One leaves its physical body and can move anywhere. Even to other dimensions. Modern science thinks that these are dreams or hallucinations. They're not real. However in this scenario they are. In the world of membranes our astral body (separated from our physical body) could be made out of so-called entangled gravitons or whatever. What matters is that the astral body can escape its native membrane once it's separated from the physical.

I've been thinking about this idea a lot, but since I'm only one person with a limited mind I want to know your thoughts aswell. Give me something crazy and mind-boggling. :P

http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/page/4335.html

[mkirkpatrick]

We as human beings are "locked into a three fold expression" mental,physical,spiritual/psychic,we have "several Bodies" the physical being the densest,followed by the etheric which is a vital body which can be seen as a living bluish flame that surrounds the physical body,one way to see this living flame is to focus on the space between the thumb and index finger look between the two and you will then begin to see what looks like at first to be vapourous then with futher looking you will see a bluish flame or light appear,try it dont just take my word for it see for your self.

Anyway I digress,each night as the human race sleeps they enter the astral realm,or plane,we all do it and have done so all of our lives,we have two lives running simultaneousy the physical life which we are all familiar with,and the astral life of which we consciously know very little about-cause we forget upon awakening.There are some who with effort remember these experiences,psychics and mediums are able to "tune" into these higher frequencies,so are those sensitive folk who can also tune into and contact the astral realm.

It could indeed be called a membrane,or a plane of existence out of phase with the physical plane,a different dimensional plane,there are many levels of life on these planes,they have been numbered as 7 astral planes,but in truth there are many more subplanes,which accomodate the whole spectrum of humanity there likes and dislike,their gross or refined manner,in these planes of existence the law is that "like attracts like" so you always end up in the level that best suits your level of development and understanding you alway feel at "home"!

Sleep is also known as the first cousin of death,eact night is a rehearsal for the real thing that eventually comes to us all,by the time death actually occurs(in most cases) we have been practising for years and its a seamless transition from one level to another,although on the outward side it may look to the observer as a struggle to fight for life inwardly there is a peace that ensues prior to departure and the exit opens.

In my past I was personally involved in mediumship and meditation circles that sat with a view to link in with the astral plane and was involved with clairvoyance and contact with beings from this realm,and have personally had outstanding and profound experiences while involved with this endevour.However I no longer am involved with it as I have moved on to newer pastures so to speak.

Well with that said returning to the thread title yes astral planes are membranes and interpenetrate this physical realm like interlocking circles one within the other,switch to a more acute mode of intent listening still the mind,and listen for a tonal pitch which will registar as though within the ears? With this done and with practise you will sense that which was invisible to you before.

regards michael.

[Drifter]

We as human beings are "locked into a three fold expression" mental,physical,spiritual/psychic,we have "several Bodies" the physical being the densest,followed by the etheric which is a vital body which can be seen as a living bluish flame that surrounds the physical body,one way to see this living flame is to focus on the space between the thumb and index finger look between the two and you will then begin to see what looks like at first to be vapourous then with futher looking you will see a bluish flame or light appear,try it dont just take my word for it see for your self.

Anyway I digress,each night as the human race sleeps they enter the astral realm,or plane,we all do it and have done so all of our lives,we have two lives running simultaneousy the physical life which we are all familiar with,and the astral life of which we consciously know very little about-cause we forget upon awakening.There are some who with effort remember these experiences,psychics and mediums are able to "tune" into these higher frequencies,so are those sensitive folk who can also tune into and contact the astral realm.

It could indeed be called a membrane,or a plane of existence out of phase with the physical plane,a different dimensional plane,there are many levels of life on these planes,they have been numbered as 7 astral planes,but in truth there are many more subplanes,which accomodate the whole spectrum of humanity there likes and dislike,their gross or refined manner,in these planes of existence the law is that "like attracts like" so you always end up in the level that best suits your level of development and understanding you alway feel at "home"!

Sleep is also known as the first cousin of death,eact night is a rehearsal for the real thing that eventually comes to us all,by the time death actually occurs(in most cases) we have been practising for years and its a seamless transition from one level to another,although on the outward side it may look to the observer as a struggle to fight for life inwardly there is a peace that ensues prior to departure and the exit opens.

In my past I was personally involved in mediumship and meditation circles that sat with a view to link in with the astral plane and was involved with clairvoyance and contact with beings from this realm,and have personally had outstanding and profound experiences while involved with this endevour.However I no longer am involved with it as I have moved on to newer pastures so to speak.

Well with that said returning to the thread title yes astral planes are membranes and interpenetrate this physical realm like interlocking circles one within the other,switch to a more acute mode of intent listening still the mind,and listen for a tonal pitch which will registar as though within the ears? With this done and with practise you will sense that which was invisible to you before.

regards michael.

Thanks for sharing Michael.
My own sentiments exactly!
I have recently said the very same thing to 'Bo' in another thread.

[melanie]

Anyway I digress,each night as the human race sleeps they enter the astral realm,or plane,we all do it and have done so all of our lives,we have two lives running simultaneousy the physical life which we are all familiar with,and the astral life of which we consciously know very little about-cause we forget upon awakening.There are some who with effort remember these experiences,psychics and mediums are able to "tune" into these higher frequencies,so are those sensitive folk who can also tune into and contact the astral realm.

It could indeed be called a membrane,or a plane of existence out of phase with the physical plane,a different dimensional plane,there are many levels of life on these planes,they have been numbered as 7 astral planes,but in truth there are many more subplanes,which accomodate the whole spectrum of humanity there likes and dislike,their gross or refined manner,in these planes of existence the law is that "like attracts like" so you always end up in the level that best suits your level of development and understanding you alway feel at "home"!

Sleep is also known as the first cousin of death,eact night is a rehearsal for the real thing that eventually comes to us all,by the time death actually occurs(in most cases) we have been practising for years and its a seamless transition from one level to another,although on the outward side it may look to the observer as a struggle to fight for life inwardly there is a peace that ensues prior to departure and the exit opens.

In my past I was personally involved in mediumship and meditation circles that sat with a view to link in with the astral plane and was involved with clairvoyance and contact with beings from this realm,and have personally had outstanding and profound experiences while involved with this endevour.

Now this is where i am stuck.

Michael, surely all these astral planes can exist only in the here and now in this immediate consciousness, is that what you mean?

What do you mean by entering the astral realm?

Also, mediums say they can make contact with dead people, this is what really confuses me.... is this true, and how?

Also, it has been said that when we die we get to meet our loved ones that have gone before us, how can that happen?

I'm still wary of these claims, because no one has ever come back from the dead,something tells me its all just an elaborate hoax.

[Drifter]

Now this is where i am stuck.

Michael, surely all these astral planes can exist only in the here and now in this immediate consciousness, is that what you mean?

What do you mean by entering the astral realm?

Also, mediums say they can make contact with dead people, this is what really confuses me.... is this true, and how?

Also, it has been said that when we die we get to meet our loved ones that have gone before us, how can that happen?

I'm still wary of these claims, because no one has ever come back from the dead,something tells me its all just an elaborate hoax.

Linga Sarira is a [Astral] sheath / ethreal envelope, of Pure Energy. and as such one of bodies of the Trinity. aka "Shakti" in Hinduism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtle_body

[melanie]

Linga Sarira is a [Astral] sheath / ethreal envelope, of Pure Energy. and as such one of bodies of the Trinity. aka "Shakti" in Hinduism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtle_body

I'm still not getting it Drift sorry? Your reply tells me nothing.

I cannot know of something that i have had no experience of. Thanks anyway.

I'll look into this idea more.