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[Mikal]

The only difference between a naturopath and a medical doctor is that a naturopath favors healing without invasiveness, healing along the natural chemicals found in the human body and healing wholistically...the whole person...

You should follow the 1st link on vaccines. It is by a radiologist. Now he is medicine however speaking out loud and clear. I could name you several Drs. who have turned to research and now are attacking and speaking out about the credibility of their own profession. However, I will not waste the time listing names, that is a senseless expenditure of time when someone has a closed mind....


Mikal

[nameless]

The only difference between a naturopath and a medical doctor is that a naturopath favors healing without invasiveness, healing along the natural chemicals found in the human body and healing wholistically...the whole person...

I was not indicting naturopathy. I was disparaging 'homeopathy'.
Perhaps if you read a bit more carefully?

You should follow the 1st link on vaccines. It is by a radiologist. Now he is medicine however speaking out loud and clear. I could name you several Drs. who have turned to research and now are attacking and speaking out about the credibility of their own profession.

Again, you defend that which has not been 'attacked'. This was not what I was refering to.
A straw-man fallacy.

However, I will not waste the time listing names, that is a senseless expenditure of time when someone has a closed mind....

I'm glad that you didn't waste our time.

Your assumption that I have a closed mind is erroneous and an emotional response unworthy of philosophy or science. 'This' mind is open (conditionally and tentatively) to anything and all that can get through a rigorous process of critical examination, and subject to recall at any moment!
So, since you were defending straw-man fallacies with a dolop of implied ad-hom fallacy for desert, I'd say that your whole response was emotional and trivial.
I didn't intend to mess with your personal 'beliefs'.
If you wish to offer a rational and logical response to what I wrote, sans the fallacies and emotional attack, I'd be glad to entertain such.
All studies and logic that I have seen indicts homeopathy as a failed notion and a possible fraud.
(Can a 'closed mind' also be defined as a mind that has, uncritically, allowed something inside and then snapped shut?)

[Mikal]

Hmmm...may seem like an important post but of course its all smoke and mirrors!
This thread is not about naturopathy or homeopathy, it is about the vaccine story and its connection through studies as to damage to the immune system and the dramatic incline of childhood illness, disease, allergies, asthma, childhood diabetes, brain damage and even cotdeath in infants at 2 months.
It is an issue in our society and a legitimate concern worthy of study and discussion.


Mikal

[melanie]

Hi Mikal.

I'm dropping by with another interesting video, that i thought might be of some value to the topic here...
although it's more about the food we eat .. rather than vaccines.
Still it's about what we are allowing to enter into our bodies.
It's called '' Diseases just don't happen ''

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do....+Lorraine+Day

The foods we put in our mouths determine our overall health.
To live with optimum vitality and health, we need to eat foods that are close to natural as possible, that means eating food in it's raw natural state.
Not all of us are willing to live that kind of lifestyle.
Again because of conditioning and habits.
It's all down to personal choice of course.
This video provides sound information about how food effects us.
We are not always aware of what we are eating, and it's quite shocking to learn that 95% of the food we eat is crap.
The food industry is like any other industry .. it's about profits !!!

Fast living is killing us slowly.. and not just us, but the earth too.
The only sustainable way is to live as naturally as we can.
And it looks like we will return to that state soon enough.
I know i state the obvious, but notice that in the animal kingdom, animals are not living neurotic lifestyles.
You don't see animals queuing up outside of doctors surgeries complaining of this and that.
In fact they survived quite happily on their own for millions of years, long before humans arrived on the scene.







I am someone who personally believes that most of our ailments / mental or physical problems, are completely non-existent, and are mostly psychosomatic.

There was also this story, whereby an old man had never been to see a doctor in his entire life.
But then one day while in his 80th year, he was finally examined by a doctor ...
In fact the old man had to have an operation, and while lying on the hospital operating table the surgeons were shocked at their findings.
They reported that the old man should have died years ago.
The fact that he hadn't died years ago was because the old man had spent his entire life never worrying about himself.
Surprisingly what had apparently kept him alive was that he had always held a very positive attitude towards himself others and life in general.

[Mikal]

Hi Mel...thanks for dropping the link and really it is not out of bounds with the subject of this thread. Just got home from work so will read it abit later. I do appreciate your interest and also your contribution...health and wellbeing takes alot under its umbrella so alot of different subjects that affect us can be discussed here....


Mikal

[nameless]

Hmmm...may seem like an important post but of course its all smoke and mirrors!
This thread is not about naturopathy or homeopathy, it is about the vaccine story and its connection through studies as to damage to the immune system and the dramatic incline of childhood illness, disease, allergies, asthma, childhood diabetes, brain damage and even cotdeath in infants at 2 months.
It is an issue in our society and a legitimate concern worthy of study and discussion.

All true (except the smoke and mirrors invalid dismissal). I was merely pointing out an 'inconsistency' that doesn't really effect the basic premise.
Falsehood, in whatever context, remains falsehood, and a stumbling block to rational logic and science.
If you wish to point to the 'validity' of a reference (as in the OP), removing any demonstrably false notions increases the 'validity' of the premise and prevents the distraction of someone having to jump in and point out that false material. A good 'screening process' might have avoided this whole side convo, with which I am finished.
Happy trails

[melanie]

Hi Mikal.

The video does cover quite a few areas concerning the human immune system
and how eating certain foods and taking medicines & drugs effect our natural immune system.

The video is two and a half hours duration, so lot's of spare time there needed to take it all in.
It's quite severe and cuts right to the bone of contention regarding our personal health habits.

For anyone interested in what goes into our bodies when consuming foods and drugs then it's an interesting film.
But it's not good news i'm afraid, and most people would say oh well, who cares, we're all going to die someday anyway.

The point is though, if we take care of the sacredness of '' LIFE ''
Then ''Life'' will take care of us.
We can't expect to carry on living like we do without consequences.
If we don't take care of the earth and our bodies,
then we have no right to moan or whine when we don't feel well either mentally or physically, it's that simple.
That's how nature works, we all know this anyway.
What we need to remember is, what sort of an environment / world are we leaving for the next generations to come.

[Mikal]

Well Mel, I just took two hours out of my schedule to watch this video. Now I like this Doc...there are two kinds of preventative medicine; her kind which gives you medical truth we are seldom allowed to be privy to and then there is the other kind, like a test that smashes a woman's breast in an attempt to look for signs of cancer thereby actually causing cancer. Then there is tests like bone density which are nothing more than to be body radiated and then of course all tests that involve xrays and radiation. So the good Doc is into spreading knowledge which we badly need. I like her kind!!

I found the video quite remarkable and certainly a tool of knowledge so I would suggest it to all who are interested in true health and wellbeing and how to do that.

I am presently involved in studying the Immune System so certainly understood everything she spoke about and of course she mentioned Dr. Blaylock and in my eyes he is just the best.

So thanks very much for dropping the link and please feel free to bring any discussion to the table here...wellness is everything from our emotional health, our mental health and our physical health. Myself I have excellent spiritual wellbeing and I consider that the wellspring....smiles...


Mikal

[Mikal]

Vijendra K. Singh, Ph.D.
Department of Biology & Biotechnology Center
Utah State University, UMC 4700
Logan, Utah 84322

Today, I will be speaking about the autoimmunity aspect of vaccines in autism, a medical condition that has been largely ignored by the medical community and federal government for a very long time and yet the incidence of autism is increasing at an alarming rate. An estimated one-half of a million Americans, mainly children, and millions more worldwide are known to suffer from autism, a heart-rending disorder that severely impairs higher brain functions: social interaction, communication, language, imagination and cognition. The disorder is a life-long mental disability with devastating consequences for both the patient and his/her family. Thus the financial burden is huge for the families who care for children with autism.

Autism is an idiopathic brain disorder, which simply means that the etiology of the disorder is not known. And there is no single, clear-cut cause for autism. Causally speaking, I tend to think that autism is a complex disorder, in which autoimmunity to brain plays a key role. Today, in spite of virtually no funding available, autoimmunity is the most extensively investigated topic of research in autism. This is by and large due to the fact that autoimmunity is the prime target of therapy that has proven to be quite effective in ameliorating autistic characteristics. Thus the autoimmunity research, unlike the genetic research, has already significantly improved the health and welfare of individuals with autistic disorder. I have recently coined a term “Autoimmune Autism (AA)” to refer to a subset of autism that has autoimmune etiology. Moreover, there are scientific reasons to think that this subset may indeed be a result of vaccine injuries to children who display autistic regression.

Autoimmunity is an abnormal reaction immune reaction, in which the immune system becomes primed to react against body organs. It’s a mosaic of highly complicated interactions and networking between cells and molecules of the immune system. The body makes autoantibodies against itself, resulting in damage to tissues and organs. The “autoimmune” response is what happens in autoimmune diseases such as lupus, and my research showed that a similar response my account for the brain abnormalities found in people with autism.

Autoimmune diseases are identified and characterized by many factors. The hallmark is the “organ-specific autoantibodies” that have also been identified in people with autistic disorder. To that end, I have recently summarized laboratory data of approximately 400 cases (autistic and controls) and found that up to 80% of autistic children have autoantibodies to specific brain structures, in particular a brain protein known as myelin basic protein (MBP) of the myelin sheath, a fatty coating that insulates nerve fibers and absolutely essential for higher brain functions. These autoantibodies are present quite frequently (65-85%) in autistic children, but only rarely (0-5%) in normal children and other disease controls. Accordingly, I postulated that autism involves a specific autoimmune response to MBP -- an immune assault that impairs myelin development in the developing brain, thereby modifying the nerve cell functions of the brain. Ultimately, by way of impaired wiring diagram in the brain, this results into autism.

Autoimmunity is commonly triggered by environmental exposures such as viral infections. Virus serology (or virus antibodies) is an excellent tool for studying virus infections in disease states. However, until recently, such studies had not been performed for autism. Because of my ongoing research, I became interested in examining a virus link with autoimmunity in autism. I recently raised two specific questions: (1) Does autistic children have a hyperimmune response (or increase of antibodies) for a specific virus? (2) Is there a relationship between virus antibodies and brain autoantibodies in autism? I conducted a carefully designed study to address these two questions. Succinctly, I made two very important observations: first, there was indeed a hyperimmune response to a virus and it was specifically for the measles virus (MV), but not for the other viruses tested [human herpesvirus-6 (HHV-6), rubella virus (RV), and cytomegalovirus (CMV)]; and secondly, there was an association between measles virus antibodies and MBP autoantibodies (i.e., the higher the measles virus antibody level the greater the chance of brain autoantibody). Few months earlier in the same year (February, 199, I had already found that many autistic children had antibodies to a specific protein of the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine (MMR vaccine preparation). These viral antibodies were also related to positive titers of brain MBP autoantibodies. This was most probably the first laboratory-based evidence to link measles virus and/or MMR vaccine to autoimmunity in children with autism. Collectively, these observations led me to speculate that autism may be caused by a measles- or MMR vaccine-induced autoimmune response. Unfortunately, due to lack of funding, I have not been able to extend this research and the progress has been hampered.

As I made scientific presentation of my initial findings, a vaccine-autism connection became even more apparent. I compiled a nonscientific, anecdotal survey of vaccine-injured children with “autistic regression” or autistic disorder, as reported by families. Surprisingly, up to 93% of the reported cases had autistic symptoms shortly after vaccinations (52% post-MMR, 33% post-DPT, and 8% post-MMR and/or post-DPT). The remaining 7% of the reported cases were not linked to any vaccination at all. Indeed, if these numbers are reproducible, the data will lead to inescapable conclusion that these vaccines can potentially cause autoimmunity in autism. Quite candidly, this will not be first time that a vaccine has been linked to a disease or disorder. There is quite a bit of literature linking vaccines to autoimmune diseases. Furthermore, an epidemiological study just published in JAMA (March 8th issue) described “extraimmunization” amongst American children and considered it to be a contributing factor for the adverse effects of the vaccines. And I think the vaccines and autism connection is no exception to these adverse effects.

In summary, the rapidly accumulating evidence strongly implicates autoimmunity in autism, which in many may result from a vaccine injury. There is a possibility of an atypical measles infection in autism, but the evidence also suggests a MMR vaccine infection. Without any reservation, I would strongly recommend that this Congressional Committee reviews all the information in bipartisanship, and explore the possibility that drug companies never properly evaluated the safety of vaccines in the first place. If this indeed were true then it becomes imperative that we as a society must pay an immediate attention to this problem; otherwise, an epidemic of autism is a real good possibility. There should be no mistaking about it because autism is on a sharp rise and vaccinations, especially the extraimmunization, could potentially explain this rise. The onset of autism (or autistic regression) post-immunization should no longer be regarded as merely a coincidence with the timing of the vaccinations, as our federal health officials continue to do. We must find new ways to curve adverse effects of vaccines, including autism. Considering a population of 500,000 cases of autism in the United States, the autoimmunity research, but not the genetic research, has already had a great impact on the health and welfare of autistic people. Since brain autoimmunity is found in up to 85% of cases, it can potentially help an estimated 425,000 Americans. Indeed, many of them are already reaping the benefits of the experimental autoimmune therapy. Thus there is an urgent need to promote autoimmunity research in autism. This recommendation is in contrast to the opinions held by the directors of the federal agencies and major private foundations (Cure Autism Now and National Alliance for Autism Research) who are erroneously committed themselves to fund genetic research only. Finally, I urge the Government Reform Committee to provide leadership for new solutions to the existing problems surrounding autism research, and request the Committee Members to be visionary and offer new hope to the people with autism -- The essence of life is to care.

[Graybeard]

The essence of life is to care.

Wouldn't it be more true to say ..... The essence of life is survival. ???

cool bananas ... greg