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    Mohan,

    I have find nothing. I did find other absurd maths with imaginary numbers, that lead to the idea that -2=2 or i=1. The solution would be to forget imaginary numbers, but we can't, because they are used in calculations by engineers of all kinds. But I wouldn't wonder too much about it, mathematicians are good when they stick to logic, but they can't be philosophers that explain us the meaning of things.

    By the way, Sub, it's true. 0/0 is indeterminate, as you say. I just mixed up the two terms. Indeterminate means any value found is good and undefined means no value found which is good.

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    I have come to the same conclusions. May be we need some more logic to explain it.


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    avoiding infinity

    Quote Originally Posted by Mohan.C
    Can any one help me with this

    I just got the chance to read this post again. My reply is that ‘i’ is the square root of -1 as the root for the algebraic solution to x + 1 = 0. This solution avoid the use of infinity itself which could be defined as 1 divided by zero, but any number divided by zero is not defined in current mathematics.
    Time independence: [∂E(g)]²=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: a(tr(t)=c²

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonioLao
    I just got the chance to read this post again. My reply is that ‘i’ is the square root of -1 as the root for the algebraic solution to x + 1 = 0. This solution avoid the use of infinity itself which could be defined as 1 divided by zero, but any number divided by zero is not defined in current mathematics.
    Hi, Antonio
    Do you have any idea how we can integrate which has imaginary limits. If at all it exists. But how will that limit satisfy when we don't have a specific value for it.


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    You're both extending the application of the imaginary number too far. It was created as a descriptive corollary to the calculation of total impedence to current in an electronic circuit when they were still using vacuum tubes and when the oscilliscope was yet a new scientific tool. It was an ingenious device - no more, no less - to accommodate a very real observation. That is all. Enough of the imaginary and back to the real, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mohan.C
    Do you have any idea how we can integrate which has imaginary limits
    I have no idea. However, since the complex field is an extension of the real field, it is a differentiable manifold, that is theory of limits is valid.
    Time independence: [∂E(g)]²=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: a(tr(t)=c²

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    Re: does imaginary exist

    Three business persons check into a hotel and it is $30. They each give $10 and it is delivered to the main office. The office worker says to the assistant, the room is only $25 go give them their change. The assistant takes the $5 keeps $2 and hands $1 to each of the three business persons.

    Since they each received $1 back they only paid $9 dollars each, and $27 in total for the room. The assistant kept $2 so that adds up to $29.

    Where did the extra dollar go?

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    Re: does imaginary exist

    Quote Originally Posted by theunify View Post
    Three business persons check into a hotel and it is $30. They each give $10 and it is delivered to the main office. The office worker says to the assistant, the room is only $25 go give them their change. The assistant takes the $5 keeps $2 and hands $1 to each of the three business persons.

    Since they each received $1 back they only paid $9 dollars each, and $27 in total for the room. The assistant kept $2 so that adds up to $29.

    Where did the extra dollar go?
    Haven't they just paid $27.00 which includes the thief's $2.00 ..... add the $27.00 to the $3.00 in their pockets and you have $30.00.

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    Re: does imaginary exist

    Divide the $25.00 by three and you will get $8.3333 each paid originally.

    Now they each get a dollar back and the assistant keeps two.

    By my reckoning, the math, which is only a human construct anyway, works out.

    In the domain of fiat currency, one man must have one penny more than the other two, to complete the math accurately.

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    Re: does imaginary exist

    Profpat, an accountant, offered me a penny for my thoughts.

    I put my 'two cents' in, Profpat keeping the change, as always.

    Is this how Prof gets rich?

 

 
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