The Lack of Choice

[greenbug]

I was wondering about the lack of choice because of past events. The sum direction of our choices maybe elastic, attached to the limiting factors of our past. How far do we take things and how far are others willing to go with radical thoughts before all is lost on the road to nowhere? It sometimes seems as if the roads we choose only exist because of the support of others.

It’s more then that thought. I was thinking its more then a choice. What if the reason we can’t move threw an object, matter/mass, or lack the energy in which to do so is limited because of choices of the past. This is almost to say that the reason an object is there is because of relation to the past, almost as if objects are an illusion. It’s the lack of support or ability comes directly from the past.

In addition the action and reaction of current particles are also limited in their action because of said events. Almost like how photons seem to know where they are going before they get there. Its not that there are so many directions to choose but that the choices for light to choose are limited.

Again I come to these thoughts considering my idea of temporal physics or sometimes I consider it relational physics. They are like condescending thoughts really but still interesting to think about. So what do you think?

[labelwench]

I was wondering about the lack of choice because of past events. The sum direction of our choices maybe elastic, attached to the limiting factors of our past. How far do we take things and how far are others willing to go with radical thoughts before all is lost on the road to nowhere? It sometimes seems as if the roads we choose only exist because of the support of others.

It’s more then that thought. I was thinking its more then a choice. What if the reason we can’t move threw an object, matter/mass, or lack the energy in which to do so is limited because of choices of the past. This is almost to say that the reason an object is there is because of relation to the past, almost as if objects are an illusion. It’s the lack of support or ability comes directly from the past.

In addition the action and reaction of current particles are also limited in their action because of said events. Almost like how photons seem to know where they are going before they get there. Its not that there are so many directions to choose but that the choices for light to choose are limited.

Again I come to these thoughts considering my idea of temporal physics or sometimes I consider it relational physics. They are like condescending thoughts really but still interesting to think about. So what do you think?

While I cannot speak to this paragraph from the perspective of physics, I would agree that our choices available have been shaped, and possibly limited by the choices made before us. More importantly, the choices which we make are going to predicate the future range of options for those that come after us. Each generation has a responsibility not to diminish the capital of succeeding generations, such was I instructed.

Each of us has the potential to make choices in our own interactions such that our own personal impact after a life well-lived, shall leave an energy balance in the world. Whether that be a credit or debit balance, will not be known until the journey has run it's course. I mean this in a physically measurable way. Did I give and leave more than I have taken? Was I a good steward of the land? Can the space where I existed continue to support existence as good as, or better, than was utilized by myself?

[austintorn@aol.com]

Almost like how photons seem to know where they are going before they get there. Its not that there are so many directions to choose but that the choices for light to choose are limited.

Referring to objects, the photons come off the object. Our brains use the angle of incidence of the photons, how far they've come, their intensity, and all that to re-present the object. Other photons come from the sun and the stars, objects as well.

As for our choices, they are as wide or as restricted as our learning. After that, well, we surely want out choices to reflect what we have become. The notion of "determined" doesn't sit well, but if we consider its opposite—"undetermined"—then it does.

[greenbug]

No the path a photon takes, not where it comes from. As in the double slit experiment or thickness of glass..

Don't think of this as the object directly, rather the rules an object fallow.. Technically in this idea the objects are an illusion.

Also, the lack of choices.. Not the complete elimination of choice.. Like i said "Elastic" think of a choice like a rubber band, the choice only changes so much..

[austintorn@aol.com]

Perhaps you mean where the photon can be or what is its momentum.

While this is so-called random, it is only so within the scheme of its probability range, which is a fixed statistical distribution.

Once a photon is forced to be somewhere, it goes there; otherwise it goes "everywhere" that it can.

Some of what is reality "out there" is reconstructed inside the brain (and some is discarded, and stuff is added).

[austintorn@aol.com]

I will no longer be inputting to this thread, as it is marked "alternate" (non-science) and I use "science' primarily.

It's been great, and interesting, but TQ is now strictly adhering to thread prefixes, as announced recently.

[greenbug]

yeah your really not geting what im saying at all so, sorry and thanks..