2008-04-19: What is Time?

[MJA]

By the way Prof., what makes time (or the measurement) dilate with rise in velocity?

Time goes by fast when your busy, and slows down when your not.

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[analog]

By the way Prof., what makes time (or the measurement) dilate with rise in velocity?

Hello Dipayankar,

Due to how I view our universe, we have two forms of time, because we have two instances of motion/velocity. We have the individual absolute motions/velocities of the fundamental builders (particles) and we have their collective motion/velocity when they become dense enough (massive object) to collectively move through a less dense medium of fundamental builders, whereby the individual particles that form the massive object are still moving in random directions (frequency) within the space they occupy, but the whole collection (massive object) is moving uniformly in one direction. It is the essence of this duality of directions that allows for size (proximity of particle to particle) to be relative to collective linear motion/velocity.

In my opinion, there is universal time, which is absolute and is a measurement of the distance traveled at any given interval of the fundamental particles of matter in absolute motion/velocity, and then there is our mechanical measurement of time, which is seen by a pendulum (massive object) swinging. Mechanical time is a measurement taken by the uniform motion/velocity of a massive object, as seen by the pendulum, but being as the pendulum is made up of a collection of particles and their proximity to each other is relative to their collective motion/velocity, so too is their overall dimensions. Thus, if a change in collective motion/velocity also changes their overall dimensions, then mechanical time is therefore relative to collective motion/velocity, but universal time is absolute due to the absolute motion/velocity of the fundamental particles.

Thus, the entire motion/velocity of a closed universal system is finite and absolute, and gives rise to true time. It is merely the measurable dimensions of massive collections of particles that fluctuate as an effect of their collective linear motion/velocity.

This is just how I see things. That doesn't make it right. I only hope it makes sense.

[dleviwing]

Pat;
Time is constant; the measurement of time (clock) is relative.

Tim;
Degrees of freedom is indeed the only absolute temperature scale.

A formal education is not a requirement for finding a TOE; it can help though if taught properly. I have found that the best physics instructors have never written a book, taught a collage course, or appeared on the Discovery Channel; they are however fun to work with.

You seem to have comprehended the basics of my “Absolute Motion” concepts; however if you did it on your own then I’m quite impressed.

Dip & Felix;
Felix is right that it is our perception of time that dilates but the actual slowing of the clock is a physical function caused by the velocity of the clocks; that’s what is corrected with Relativity; the equations work with both perception and actual.

We can just ignore MJA!

[analog]

Hello Dave,

I've learned most of what I know from my own system, through my own mind, but I still have trouble explaining it sometimes, as I feel many things are lost in translation. I feel I have a better view of our world, than what I can explain, just as you once told me I would.

I have read your blog a couple of times and I do see many similarities between our views. I always have. Rather than learning from your views, I more often relate to them, but I feel a more in-depth study of your world would surely help me with mine. So, quit being lazy and let's see the next installment of your work. LOL

I agree that a formal education is indeed helpful if taught properly, but the odds on coming across improper teaching is unfortunately more likely these days. I have no formal training. Therefore, it makes me feel that much better to know that I have come to similar conclusions as a well educated properly taught person, such as yourself, by using only pure logic.

Thanks for the reassurance,

Tim

[Profpat]

"Time is constant; the measurement of time (clock) is relative."

Does that mean the twins are clocks David?

[MJA]

Pat;
Time is constant; the measurement of time (clock) is relative.


We can just ignore MJA!

I didn't invent the saying "Time flys when you having fun," but I sure have empirically experienced it, haven't you Dave?

What is the constant of time without the relativity of measure anyways?
Time is measure, isn't it?
You remove measure from time, and POOF! it's gone.

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MJA

[Profpat]

I now what you mean MJA, time goes by really fast when I.m having fun, ( BTW Einstein noticed this when he was with a beautiful woman ), and it seems to drag when I'm with my relatives. I wonder if that is Relative Time.Also I noticed as I get older time goes by a lot faster than when I was 8 years old. I think that is because when I was 8 a year was 1/8 of my life, now a year is only 1/62 of my life.Getting back to the twin going close to the speed of light he ages very slowly RELAtIVE to Earth time.Best to all,Pat

[JamesANicholson]

Time goes by fast when your busy, and slows down when your not.

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MJA

But sometimes it seems just the opposite!


Aaron

[MJA]

Truly then, measure has no certainty, and that is the problem of time.

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MJA

[bottomlander]

Truly then, measure has no certainty, and that is the problem of time.

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MJA

Dear MJA,

It seems that you feel very happy (Truly then) to accuse Measure, Time and Science have the problem of no certainty.

However, science increases the certainty in objective/transparent/verifiable ways. Science pushes technology to increase the precision of measurement up to satisfaction.

In contrast, your favorite styles like: verbal descriptions, psychological feelings, unrelated analogies, biased interpretations are really of great uncertainty!

Best Regards. Bottomlander