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10-13-2005, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by GUILLE In all of your equivalence porbabilities it is impplied the speed c, what about any random velocity v? | Any speed less than light does not change the transition of phase change probabilities and that is why nothing is instantaneous, all processes need to take some time. But I need to add that death is catastrophic and instantaneous, it might be the only phase change from matter to space or energy that is truly abrupt and sudden.
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10-13-2005, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AntonioLao Any speed less than light does not change the transition of phase change probabilities and that is why nothing is instantaneous, all processes need to take some time. | I see. But what about when you said in the "disconects" thread that the connections of the H's is speedless, i.e. instantanuous?
Please see my post 8 question. | | | | Raider of the lost time
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10-13-2005, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by GUILLE the H's is speedless, i.e. instantanuous? | For 2 H's. But there are almost infinite number of H+'s and H-'s many times Avogadro's number. The best we can do is to measure the statistical averages which are not instantaneous as to when, where, and how they will connect.
About post#8, are you talking about the different kind of time?
1. physical time (public time)
2. psychological time (private time)
3. biological time (living time)
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10-13-2005, 05:31 PM
| | Oh, I didn't mean the different types of times, I mean if there is time for time, i.e. change for change? | | | | Moderator
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10-13-2005, 07:37 PM
|  Thoughts in Mind Exposed=T-I-M-E-=AS-IT-IS-!
For most of my life I thought about time,what is it,where is it,why is it,how is it,
And thats when the idea began to form,its all in the Mind!outside of mind,outside of consciousness,it has no being.But I suppose that is only half the story,in a realitive state,there does indeed seem to be a thing called time,or evolution,and
we seem to bear witness to its passing,it all <Seems> so real,and it is,A real illusion.In absolute reality there is no Time,there is also no space,there just IS?
The NOW can be infinitly personal,as you watch the sun go down and melt into the sea,can cover the universe being born,and fading out into obscurity,all this
happens in the Now,as our consciousness and understanding grow,so does the
concept of now expand in our minds.Words like time,space,are often linked to other words,like,light,energy,matter,force,Life itself! And of course thats not
surprising as they are all aspects of the One Thing-thought.We can and will
know the answers tomany of the puzzles that perplex us.with I think the one
exception,What Really Is Life,One answer from the ageless wisdom says that
life is a Cold Flame of which we no nothing.
kind regards michael.  | | | | Raider of the lost time
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10-13-2005, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by GUILLE I mean if there is time for time, i.e. change for change? | I was reading somthing about what Newton and the philosopher Locke said about time: Newton said that time measures motion and motion measures time. Therefore, time and motion measure each other. Locke said that only motion measure time. He did not believe that time measures motion. Newton believed that absolute time is the same as infinite time, while he used relative time for physical measurement of time in physics. In special theory of relativity, there is a distinction between real time and proper time found within the line metric equation c˛∆t˛=c˛∆t˛-∆r˛. ∆t is the proper time and ∆t is the real time.
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10-13-2005, 10:37 PM
| | More about proper time:
For quantum mechanical particles with mass, there is always a finite 'intrinsic' proper time rate, represented by the 'phase' of the quantum wave. For all quantum mechanical particles with no mass, the proper time is always zero and they always travel at the speed of light. And the candidates for zero proper time particles are gluons, gravitons, and photons.
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10-14-2005, 05:37 AM
| | Michael,
I don't really understand what you meant in your post?
Antonio,
But you must agree that motion is not theonly kind of time. Newton may had not noticed it in his times, but it's quite clear. Do oyu think motion is the only kind of change? | | | | Raider of the lost time
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10-14-2005, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by GUILLE Do oyu think motion is the only kind of change? | There are various classifications of motion. Some are the following
1. rectilinear motion
2. curvilinear motion
3. uniform motion
4. accelerated motion
5. decelerated motion
6. rotational motion
7. vibrational motion
8. oscillatory motion
9. pulsating motion
10 gyroscopic motion
11. axial motion
12. polar motion
13. exponential motion
14. logarithmic motion
15. spiral motion
and many more... but the one I am working on is called LIM (local infinitesimal motion). I think all the above 1-15 can be described by real time except the LIM which can only be described by a 2 by 1 column matrix as discussed in other posts.
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10-14-2005, 01:57 PM
| | Antonio,
I understand all of them exept logarithmic motion. I haven't done logarithms in maths yet, what are logarithms and logarithmic motion? | | | | | |
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