beech proxy returns

[AntonioLao]

Physical data gathered globally from ice cores, seabed sediments, boreholes, tree rings, tree lines, stalagmites, and pollen can all serve as temperature proxies for testing climatic changes of warming and cooling trends.

From 750 B.C. to 200 B.C., a cooling trend was recorded in Egyptian papyrus before the rise of the Roman Empire. Activities of dams and canals buildings indicated decreasing flood levels. The level of Lake Victoria in Central Africa and sea level around the world also decreased during this 500 years period.

Next 400 years, from 200 B.C. to 600 A.D. is known as the Roman Warming with plant proxies’ grapes and olives growing farther north. Heavy precipitations contributed to flooding in the Nile and increased the levels of lakes world round.

Next 500 years, from 440 A.D. to 900 A.D. is known as the Dark Ages signified a climate catastrophe in 540 A.D. where and when the trees stopped growing in Northern Ireland and around the world. This is caused by cosmic dust blanketing the earth and almost blocked out the sun completely. In 800 A.D., the Black Sea was frozen. In 829 A.D., the Nile was icy.

Next 400 years, 900 to 1300, is known as the Medieval Warming. Many great castles and cathedrals were built indicating abundant harvests to feed large labor forces for undertaking major constructions. Even Greenland was cultivated by the Vikings covering their settlement with grape vines and called it “Vinland.”

Next 500 years, 1300 to 1850, is known as the Little Ice Age. Global human adaptations suffered. Cool loving oak trees were reported as far south of the Sahara Desert.

From 1850 to the present marks the return of a warming trend and a resurging of warmth-loving beech trees in southern Ontario replacing the cold-loving pines and oaks. If the pattern holds out, this period should end by 2250.

[sillysally]

Do you know how the Kauri is preserved? It happened after an ice age. It's my favorite tree but I have only seen it in table form. My table broke during shipping, The broker lied about the insurance he sold me so I never got mine fixed. The trucker took it to a paper mill first! They took it out, busted it and put it back in the crate.

http://www.arroyohardwoods.com/Depar...ints/Kauri.htm

The prehistoric Kauri forests that grew 50,000 years ago are preserved under the surface of the North Island of New Zealand.


Buried under a peat swamp by an unexplained act of nature at the end of the last Ice Age, the trees have survived the centuries in an underground resting place, sealed in a chemically balanced environment that has preserved the timber in perfect condition.


The trees grew for nearly 2000 years before they were buried. Some have a girth of around 40 feet, and a total height of nearly 200 feet. They are among the largest trees in the world.

[AntonioLao]

Do you know how the Kauri is preserved?

No, I don't. But it's worth investigating if humans can also be preserved the same way. I don't mean suspended animation but rather stopping the aging process, staying young forever.

[sillysally]

That's what I was hoping you would say.

[AntonioLao]

That's what I was hoping you would say.

But not hoping what I can do? But if there is a will there is a way.

[sillysally]

But not hoping what I can do?

What do you think is going to come first, a solution or people knowing that there needs to be a solution?

But if there is a will there is a way.

I like to say my will is my word.

[sillysally]

Do bogs have formaldehyde in them? Is formaldehyde is a kind of preservative? But I read that methane can also come from bogs and I don't know why I thought of alcohol (probably ethanol from what I read) but isn't that in a sense turning water into wine?

[AntonioLao]

is going to come first, a solution or people knowing that there needs to be a solution?

A problem in need of a solution or a solution in need of a problem? If there is no problem then there is no need of a solution. But humans are known to create problems out of boredom and idleness.

Do bogs have formaldehyde in them?

I don't know. But I can do some investigations. The decays of organic matter are activities of bacterial presence.

[sillysally]

A problem in need of a solution or a solution in need of a problem? If there is no problem then there is no need of a solution. But humans are known to create problems out of boredom and idleness.

Ok, I'll try this again, except I'll give you the answer. Let's say there is a problem, then a solution always exists, we just don't know what it is yet. Doesn't matter if anyone knows it or not because as I said, a solution is there. Solution comes first and I'd like to volunteer my body to science while it's still alive to make sure the solution works.

I don't know. But I can do some investigations. The decays of organic matter are activities of bacterial presence.

That sounds really gross. Glad it's you that will be investigating it and not me.

[AntonioLao]

I'd like to volunteer my body to science while it's still alive to make sure the solution works.

The solution is really human consciousness. Please see post on edge of reality. The thing about investigations is that they are paper and pencil investigations like web searches. So they wont be as bad as you think as far as getting hands dirty and putting up with the smell, etc.