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Originally Posted by Fluent Piffle  Then your opinion will remain you opinion, even if you manage to convince others less aware that it has some merit as a 'hypothesis'.
I don't need anything written on parchment, michael. Just post something logical that works with observation. I have eyes, and they are both open. I have consciousness to correlate the things I have learned. Thus I wonder, if 'all is consciousness', why do I need to 'learn' at all? Surely I already know everything?
Have you read 'Small Gods' by Terry Pratchett? It's wonderful!
pif. | There is a big-big difference in knowing and realizing,you can indeed pif say that you know everything today,however it will be several billion years or so before you "fully"
realize what you think you know now!
No i have not read the book "small gods"will look out for it.
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01-23-2008, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick There is a big-big difference in knowing and realizing,you can indeed pif say that you know everything today,however it will be several billion years or so before you "fully"
realize what you think you know now!
No i have not read the book "small gods"will look out for it.
regards michael. | Well I think that to Know IS to Realise, that they are the same thing, so your 'hypothesis' breaks down for me. It is only 'belief' that changes. (From minute to minute, it would seem!)
pif.
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01-23-2008, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Fluent Piffle Well I think that to Know IS to Realise | Pif ..... Science (modern consciousness) was the stumbling infant Phoenix borne in the ashes of the Mythopoeic nest. Not everyone is 'aware' that the nest has burnt down yet. The pilgrimage to the site has only been made by the few. Be understanding.
The absolute is the mythopoeic concept by those unaware of the fire.
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01-23-2008, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Graybeard Pif ..... Science (modern consciousness) was the stumbling infant Phoenix borne in the ashes of the Mythopoeic nest. Not everyone is 'aware' that the nest has burnt down yet. The pilgrimage to the site has only been made by the few. Be understanding.
The absolute is the mythopoeic concept by those unaware of the fire.
cool bananas ... greg | Appreciated, greg.
You know, that the fire has been raging for a few thousand years now, and we might just be running out of 'things' to burn? (I'm sure you do.) Besides which, all this smoke is not good for the lungs or the eyes!
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01-23-2008, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Fluent Piffle Well I think that to Know IS to Realise, that they are the same thing, so your 'hypothesis' breaks down for me. It is only 'belief' that changes. (From minute to minute, it would seem!)
pif. | You may think that to know and realise are the same thing,however you are mistaken
in that assumption.
That which IS pif is locked within us,for me that cannot change,for only the unreal
is capable of change.
How I see IT has not changed in over 30 years,however my realization of IT has been
deepened!
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01-23-2008, 11:43 PM
Pif ... I thank you. the first person to increase my reputation in the 2.5 years I have been on this forum.
You are a wise and discerning citizen.
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01-24-2008, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick You may think that to know and realise are the same thing,however you are mistaken
in that assumption.
That which IS pif is locked within us,for me that cannot change,for only the unreal
is capable of change.
How I see IT has not changed in over 30 years,however my realization of IT has been
deepened!
regards michael. | Then your 'realization' has changed (deepened), and by your own submission, your own 'realization' cannot be Real!
Good excuse for never growing up as well!
Michael, as stated in another thread, it is not you, but the Objective action that is incorrect. You have a limited choice of action (change), otherwise you would not even choose to post here! - So, please do not take it all so personally!
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01-24-2008, 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Graybeard Pif ... I thank you. the first person to increase my reputation in the 2.5 years I have been on this forum.
You are a wise and discerning citizen.
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Greg, I think the same of you, and I thank you for the comment (even though It's a tough one to live up to! )
Your crab/samurai post was inspired! - Best thing I've seen online for a while!
Cheers!
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01-24-2008, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Fluent Piffle Then your 'realization' has changed (deepened), and by your own submission, your own 'realization' cannot be Real!
Good excuse for never growing up as well!
Michael, as stated in another thread, it is not you, but the Objective action that is incorrect. You have a limited choice of action (change), otherwise you would not even choose to post here! - So, please do not take it all so personally!
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I will endevour not to take anything here personally pif!My realization is "limited" by my
abilty to understand all that IS,I do however look for-emotional,mental,and spirtitual
maturity,whether I actually achieve this-well that's another story!
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