[Lloyd Gillespie]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl LLoyd, the site you mentioned was addressed as Marxist, hence my comment. Thank you for your valuable input. I actually read into your post the information that was actually there, rather than the information you believed you posted (which was incorrect). Perhaps you could refrain from characterizing my reading (and incorrectly so, I might add)

HG, he/she who interprets another's thinking must prove another's thoughts by their own___neither of us know each other well enough___yet!

sorry,
regards

[harmonygirl]

Well said, Lloyd.

[HappytheStripper]

Try think about the Universal Law of Balance in relation to the mind. If a bigger energy of concentration were to take place within the mind of the space... immediately an imbalance would be created in this place.. and immediately too. Would a discovery of TOE create this???

A rebalance force should be born from this concentration. This force is the magnetism. Its a strong force needing a weakforce to re-balance.

When a great material accumulation arrives to its critical mass, or what is the same.. it takes the absolute value of the energy from the mind ttherefore imbalancing it.

A bigger contribution of mass won't increase notably its potential or energy effectiveness... magnetic forces will increase vastly its potential arriving to the destruction of this material concentration. The mind...

I ask again "how does one balance the mind.. ???

Thanks for all your replies .. I know this balancing of the mind is able to be acheived .. apparently as a critical mass.???

[mkirkpatrick]

Ashley,you ask once again how does one balance the mind? there are two ways of answering this question,one is the relative way,by right thinking,right living,right actions,right endevour,with meditation,and a postive attitude,
which will if diligently adhered to will bring about balance,in mind,body,and soul.Then there is the other answer,which if not properly understood,leads to
a feeling of "loss" and unease,within the inquirer!For the absolute answer is that (you) have no (mind)to balance!In fact there is no such thing as a YOU
anywhere in absolute reality!That which you think of as you is really IT,you are only you in the relative universe,butthat does last a VERY long time>


kind regards michael

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Originally Posted by HappytheStripper I ask again "how does one balance the mind.. ???

Hi Ashley, let me give your question a try. I am just going to give a simple answer for now, if you want details I will continue later... IMO, the easiest way of balancing the mind is to realize the old central positions and truths of both Greek and Indian early metaphysics. The intuitive reason is the central position to rest in, and it views the extremes of emotions on one side and logic on the other, if I can be so bold to state it that way. By sitting the fence, in the middle, with intuitive reason, you have a very comfortable view of all worlds. To venture very far into either extreme world, or any other extreme world is where all the confusion and imbalancing comes in, unless you are one who can easily return to the center, time and time again. The mereological intuitive reasoned position is the middle position between the teleological and the ontological positions, loosely speaking. These extreme positions can also be seen, more loosely speaking, as objective and subjective, having a middle of half of both, or intrinsic and extrinsic, having a middle of half of both, or heart and head, having a middle of half of both.

Just realize all of these are very loose interpretations of opposites, as the mind is much more complex and very hard to truly define as to its operations of true balanced essence, essence agents and essences. Any of the above mentioned opposites can be intermixed in different people, in many varied degrees of associations, but the center balanced position of intuitive reason is the same in all people, just as Heraclitus, Aristotle and other Greeks, or many of the early Indian philosophers, described it. Many of these simplest of balanced ideas have to be chased back to the earliest of times, as many later philosophers never bothered to restate the first basic principles of balanced ethics and metaphysics... And finally, some things change but many things stay the same. Analogies and isomorphisms are quite consistent as relates to the central balanced position of intuitive reason all throughout the ages...

regards

[HappytheStripper]

Thanks Lloyd .. and to everyone else whom has replied .. I have another question .. involving the balancing of the mind .. my next question is

Lloyd: "If the intuitive reason is the central position to rest in .. where does all the information of reason go and how is it converted into knowledge to conclude intuition?"

[harmonygirl]

Is the question: 'where does all the information of reason go and how is it converted into knowledge to include (not 'conclude'?) intuition'? If that is the case, I guess we would first have to agree on what knowledge is and how it comes about. I agree that knowledge includes intuition. Unfortunately, I think that intuition is based upon life experience, so different people will be true to different intuitions (which will be true to them and possibly no one else). I am not sure I believe knowledge "goes" anywhere. If no one puts energy into an idea or belief any more, does it still have energy?Let's pretend there was no "Flat Earth Society" and no one on the planet believed that the planet was flat. Would this idea have energy? Would it have to go somewhere? I don't know the answer, I have never thought about this before.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Originally Posted by HappytheStripper Lloyd: "If the intuitive reason is the central position to rest in .. where does all the information of reason go and how is it converted into knowledge to conclude intuition?"

Ashley, Douglas Hofstadter has been the leading scientist/philosopher of this level of the mind for over the last thirty years. His material is widely distributed and available on the web. Just type 'analogy' into Google and it will take you to many of Hofstadter's articles about cognitive science, otherwise known as AI. Douglas has unique ideas which are in agreement with my own self-investigations, over the years.

Now, he and I would both state knowledge goes only into memory, in the end, however it makes several passages through other essence agents before finally being stored in memory. Not being too long winded, from the time of childhood, analogy plays important roles in developing our brains. Hofstadter has for years been stating analogy to be the core of cognition, however I would further state that intuitive isomorphic imagination is the core of and behind much of anology transition to its larger packets of concepts. The concepts make up our ultimate ideas. This is brief, and I would advise reading some of Douglas's work. This is a great link to his work: http://consc.net/papers/highlevel.pdf
This one is excellent; "Analogy As The Core of Cognition" http://prelectur.stanford.edu/lectur...r/analogy.html

As to the last part of your querry, intuition seems more the transitioning phase between anologies to analogies to concepts. Hofstadter states the slipping of one anology into another, but I see the deeper process of intuitive isomorphic imagination playing the larger role of this deeper slippage between analogies and concepts. Our dreams seem to do this same function when we are asleep, as I have noticed the connection, of most identicalities of dreams, and this subtle deep functioning of thought while awake. If you just quietly reflect on your analogical process while thinking, you most likely will catch one of these dream like morphic intuitions playing its magic. In order to know what to look for, they are always like dreams, real but not quite functionally real, if you know what I mean.

hope I helped,
regards