[mkirkpatrick]

It occured to me,in a moment of thoughtful contemplation,about the whole
process of learning and education,and how much if any importance is given to
individuals developing and nurturing their own intuitive perceptions.
In another thread, I mentioned about being "the embodiment of reality" and that we are locked into the universal system of lifefulness.and conscious awareness,our own historic truths,and racial histories,are fine being taught in class of lecture hall,but what of universal truths?These that are vouchsafed
within us all!Locked into our consciousness,and filtered down from the higher mind,or soul?Do we really need a teacher to instruct us in the reality of our
being!Or would it be more appropriate to tell the "pupil"as the Oracle of Delpi
would say,Man know thyself?Look within and take instruction from your higher
self!What do you think!!

kind regards michael.

[harmonygirl]

Michael, there is much to be said for intuition and generational memory (is that the term? I can't remember). Inevitably, one runs into problems in trying to describe truth achieved by intuition to others. I find it is nearly impossible! Also, sadly, we humans have turned our shared intuition into ways of domination, through politics, religion, etc. There is a danger, when using the phrase 'universal truths' that someone will co-opt the intuition and turn it to nefarious uses. So while I agree with you, I am just SO cautious about putting forth concepts that could be subverted.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl Michael, there is much to be said for intuition and generational memory (is that the term? I can't remember). Inevitably, one runs into problems in trying to describe truth achieved by intuition to others. I find it is nearly impossible! Also, sadly, we humans have turned our shared intuition into ways of domination, through politics, religion, etc. There is a danger, when using the phrase 'universal truths' that someone will co-opt the intuition and turn it to nefarious uses. So while I agree with you, I am just SO cautious about putting forth concepts that could be subverted.

I feel that one has to always exorcise caution,baring in mind that we are "held" accountable by the laws of Karma for all that we say and do,however
there is a built in safety device within each individual as to how much they can acquire of universal truth?If we just tune into our own intuitive awareness,we will then only recieve as much as we are able to understand.
regards michael.

[harmonygirl]

I'm still trying to think of why your initial post disturbed me (intuition?) and I don't know if I've adequately captured it. I agree with you that we only get what we are ready to understand but my concern is not about those genuinely seeking understanding, but directed to those who would turn the phrase 'universal truth' into justification for power centralization. I guess, the self-styled messiahs.

[mkirkpatrick]

I can understand what you are saying,Harmony,and can further see as to why you could feel disturbed about the word.However what i am meaning here harmony,and please forgive me for failing to put this more succinctly,
is that each individual looks within his or her self for the message of form-ation,and existance!And by doing that they would be well away from these
"self styled messiahs"That is the whole point of this thread,to teach that we all need to look within ourselves,and be taught from within ourselves-INtuition.Reality is embodied within us,it is awaiting release,intuition is the key that will open the door of universal discovery to each and every one of us!
kind regards michael.

[r.p.bibra]

Both of you are very near to the ‘truth’. These days it is much easier to get good teachers in secular institutions than to find a genuine guide/wise/guru. Hg’s concern about messiahs is real. If we really want to ‘look out’ for help, as is our system of acquisition of knowledge is doctored since childhood, then nature is our best guru/teacher. Otherwise inner (self)-inquiry is highly recommended by the ancients. It is said, 7/10 sadhna (spiritual discipline) is self-inquiry& the remaining 3/10 is meditation/concentration/contemplation/prayer/worship all put together. The ‘monitor’ within, of conscience, is the sole parameter in assessing the genuineness of our intuitional sense and also in checking it’s nefarious usage in the guise of ‘universal truths’ (as pointed out by hg). (It may also be kept in mind; intuition is considered a sense like other senses. However its placement is much higher in the mind’s conscious. Artists, creative writers and scientists, all draw their ‘input’ (for some it is ‘output’) from intuition. All great discoveries are said to have been made in the ‘state’ of intuition! Ls.

[mkirkpatrick]

Intuition is a comprehensive grip of the principle of universality,and when
it is functioning there is,momentarily at least,a complete loss of the sense of
separateness.At its highest point it is known as that of universal love,which has no relation to sentiment or to the "affectional" reaction but is predominantly in the nature of an identification with all beings.Then is true
compassion known;then does criticism become impossible;then only is the
spiritual "germ" seen as latent in all forms.
That "still small voice" within,the Divine monitor (soul)will guide us,and educate us into the ways of wholeness and unity,if we of course take the
trouble to listen and then pay attention to what we hear?

regards michael.