[mkirkpatrick]

Not wanting to be controversial or anything like that.but I would like to propose the idea that we are no more that a principle that has life?
I am the principle of life in form here on this planet,The real me is in truth
a principle,a universal law made manifest and provided with mindful reflective
abilities,that allow me to ponder this very question,I am no more that a
principle outworking the idea of the Architect of lifefulness,motioning my
way through evolution?

kind regards michael.

[harmonygirl]

Not sure I understand you Michael. Are principles really necessary outside of a social grouping of individuals?

[mkirkpatrick]

Harmony,principles have absolutely nothing to do withany social gathering!
What I am writing about here are universal laws,these are the principles that
I mean!And that when I think about this,It seems that what I really am,is
the outworking of the principle of life?
I am the result of an outworking of universal law that is expanding through
an evolutionary process?
We are then in effect and in fact,principles of life!

kind regards michael.

[harmonygirl]

but Michael, this seems to me to be unnecessarily complicated, are we not just life? I mean, we can be an idea of life, a vibration of life, a _____ of life, but doesn't it all work out to the same thing?

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl but Michael, this seems to me to be unnecessarily complicated, are we not just life? I mean, we can be an idea of life, a vibration of life, a _____ of life, but doesn't it all work out to the same thing?

Well I suppose you have a valid point there Harmony!I am i think trying
out an idea,to see if we can draw out a finer shading of the whole?

kind regards michael.

[harmonygirl]

okay, then maybe I am missing your point, can you restate?

[mkirkpatrick]

Harmony,I know you are not grilling me like a sausage!I will do my best to
re-state,Principles are laws,universal and ubquitous in operation,what I am
trying to convey here,(and abysmally failing it seems)is that I am a principle
and also an outworking of the law,And with that idea in mind,I therefore
consider the proposition that what i think I am is not what I really am?
I am a law,a principle,exhibiting itself in three dimensional form,a Law that
has in effect and in fact Taken-Shape?????

kind regards michael.

[harmonygirl]

Michael, if I am grilling you, I apologize. (sometimes it's hard not to cross-examine!) Are you saying that we are all aspects of the universal in principle form? If so, there is a great deal of danger in that statement. If in fact, this is what we are, then couldn't killers say they are a law unto themselves? Of course, this is an extreme case, but you see where I am going? It is not that you are failing at explaining, I am trying to find the 'finer hues' to which you are referring...

[mkirkpatrick]

Harmony some times it is nice to be a sausage!To try and answer your
question,could not a killer,use this,as an excuse to kill,saying that "he" or
"she" is a law unto themselves?Well yes they could!The same as a madman
who says God told me to kill him?People will always make excuses and attempt,to justify the most horrendous acts,"they" or "it" made me do it!
Now back to this idea,itwould seem that what i really am is a principle or
law "personified" and informed by intent?

kind regards michael.

[harmonygirl]

Michael, I understand that wrongdoers will always try to justify their actions, but my thinking was that in saying we are all principles of universal law, you open the door for this type of justification. In any event, I am not sure how this contributes to those 'finer hues'...