[austintorn@aol.com]

(some more observations)

— The Devil is Dying —

Six hundred ago, the church thought that ills
Of a physical nature were caused by
Evil spirits; however, now we know
They’re from bacteria and viruses.


— The Devil is Dead —

Now the church thinks that ills, or sins, of a
Mental nature are caused by the Devil,
An evil spirit; however, now
We know of brain chemistry gone astray.


— Role Model? —

Is God a good role model, a leader,
Someone that we would follow, imitate,
Emulate, be like, adore, or follow?
Well, then, what would his example provide?


— Not To Follow —

We could jail people for the sins of their
Ancestors, exterminate humanity,
Allow known evil to exist and tempt,
And devise devious entrapment plans.


— Bad Role Model —

We could have temper tantrums and outbursts,
Envy, or not permit competitors,
Grant free will only it matched our own,
And covet worship, adoration, and praise.

[lamedvavnik]

Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com

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— Human Nature —

God said to Adam and Eve in Eden:
“Do what you like, but don’t eat the apple”.
Now we know that when you tell children
Not to touch something, they certainly will!

If that is the case, why would God create an Apple tree in front of Human and then tell him not to eat it. Better if He hadn't created the tree. Now who is to be blamed, Adam or God?

Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com

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— Poor Craftsmanship —

Who’s to blame for the genetic defects
That lead to social misfits, obsessors,
And other special personalities?
Did the Maker’s hand shake when He made us?

Well, yet another quote to support atheism. Is the belief system on God created by society is vulnerable to changes from time to time? If so, then the God created by such Belief system exist in only our mind. Its still not experiential.

Religion is a purest form of science. But, today it has become contaminated by politics that the real experiments are not available to everyone who follows the religion. But as far as I have seen personally, there are strange experiments that are possible by the Yogis in India. I have been with one yogi personally. Since our religions doesn't have written down methods of experiments to experience God - It doesn't mean that they are not a solution to personal search. Science is broadly accepted because you can experiment most of the scientific disclosures on your own. Where in, a religion needs lots of basic home work - done by YOU, on YOU, for YOURSELF. Then you can get help from certain masters, who will definitely help you experience many things.

The existing belief system about God, which says that you can be happy if you pray or worship, or your sins will be washed away if you surrender yourself, or you can attain eternity if you do an offering, all these are just exploiting people.

I don't say that the religion is wrong. But the religious people today are not true to themselves. Definitely any religion is a way to attain the truth. Its like rivers. All rivers go to the Sea. But most of the people stop only in the river side. No one takes a plunge in it.

[austintorn@aol.com]

It is difficult for humans to realize that they can't know the unknowable origin of the universe, since they weren't there and it is long gone, as well, thus the various inventions to satisfy the desire for 'knowing'.

Even now, in everyday life, aside from educated opinions, we tend to fill in causes for the little unknowns, like "that slow driver is a moron", when really they could just be old, new at it, lost, distracted, not feeling well or whatnot.