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Re: The Human belief systems. - 06-15-2008, 01:13 PM

Dave...now there could be no truer words...yes "the package of insanity" is quite interesting to study...if your led you never possess your own mind...if you swallow the fixed dogma...you allow the religious to think for you...it will never lift mankind over the difficulties of life...the package has a ripe history and if you take the journey to find it you find yourself wading neck deep in the history of shedding human blood and life


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Re: The Human belief systems. - 06-15-2008, 01:37 PM

Philosophers chew constantly without having anything in their mouths.
The package doesn't have any proof.

You're just talking air, you just talk.

Are you going to rule my life?
  
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Re: The Human belief systems. - 06-15-2008, 01:52 PM

David...I am chuckling now...I am not a philosopher...I am a researcher..a cultural historian...I would strongly suggest that it is your natural birth right to rule your own life...are we misunderstanding discussion and debate...
I rule myself...touche my friend...touche

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Re: The Human belief systems. - 06-15-2008, 03:07 PM

Don't worry about it, eventually everyone has right to his/her own opinion.

As long as it doesn't harm anyone.
  
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Re: The Human belief systems. - 06-15-2008, 03:34 PM

David...some humour here...at work I have a gracious friend who jokes to all about opinions...she tells them ..."I have a back room here..with an operating room table...if you want to just hop up there..I'll do you the kind deed of removing your opinion but unfortunately its a difficult procedure because I must remove it from your back end"...I love it she is just too cool..."

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Re: The Human belief systems. - 06-15-2008, 05:52 PM

Thanks, that's a good one.

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Re: The Human belief systems. - 07-06-2008, 03:56 PM

Praying doesn't change the world, but praying changes man and man changes the world.
  
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Re: The Human belief systems. - 07-07-2008, 07:31 AM

Very true David....I found The Prayer of Brotherhood in 1977, which I took into my life, my mind and my heart...yes it worked to change me for twenty some years and then I turned back to life to serve with others attempting to change the world.


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Does God exist? - 07-23-2008, 04:22 PM

To the question "Does God exist?", I believe we'll never get a scientific answer.

Atheists will say we'll never get an answer because God simply doesn't exist.

In my opinion, believers will never get an answer either; cause it's a matter of simple logic that science can't have anything to say about the reality of a supernatural spirit that guides us.

((N.B.: If I would really have to chose to believe in the existence of a deity, personally, I would believe in Spinoza's)).
  
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Re: The Human belief systems. - 07-23-2008, 04:36 PM

— The Buck Stops Here —

Does Atlas underlie the universe,
Standing upon the back of a turtle?
Is there an eternal basic substance
Or is it turtles all the way down?


— Composite Entities —

A God-who-is-a-person would, like us,
Be dependent on, and exist after,
The Ground of Ultimate Reality,
And so could not, in itself, be its own cause.


— We Are It! —

A God-which-is-not-a-person would be
The Ground of Ultimate Reality—
Energy, Awareness, or what you like—
The source of which forms/is our consciousness.


— Human Nature —

God said to Adam and Eve in Eden:
“Do what you like, but don’t eat the apple”.
Now we know that when you tell children
Not to touch something, they certainly will!


— Forbidden Thoughts —

Thoughts good and bad come and go, as the brain
Looks at itself without assigning values.
Still, lucky that others can’t read our minds,
’Though forbidden thoughts are normal and sane.


— Just Think Of It —

If you try hard not to think of something,
Then you will just think of it all the more—
So if told to avoid impure thoughts, you’ll
Think of people naked beneath their clothes!


— A Poor Example —

He murders by flame and flood; he tortures;
He entraps; he blames us for his mistakes;
He holds grudges for our ancestors’ sins;
He throws tantrums and fits—his name is God.


— Poor Craftsmanship —

Who’s to blame for the genetic defects
That lead to social misfits, obsessors,
And other special personalities?
Did the Maker’s hand shake when He made us?


— The Way It Is —

Only a Fool would blame His own creations
For the flaws therein, for His poor craftsmanship,
So rejoice, there’s no Maker of Man—these “flaws”
Provide for interesting character types!


— Hallucinations and Voices —

The founders of the religions were all
“Divinely inspired”, but were each told a
Different story; now we know that their
Visions might be psychotic episodes.


— Reasonable Doubt —

Well, possibly, probably, the quieting
Of the brain’s self-boundary ID center
During focus on mantras, hymns, or prayers
Is a neurological effect, and nothing more.


— Tunnel Vision —

The so-called near-death experience of
Bright lights and a peeking into Heaven
Is but a flood of opiate endorphins
Causing hallucinations and calmness.


— Mindless Souls —

Does Awareness, our soul, have any will
Before birth or after death without a
Brain and a mind for memory, senses,
And decisions? No, not as we know it.


— The Time When Life is Not —

If souls are eternal, then where were they
During the eternity before births?
Nonexistence is nonexistence, whether
It comes before or after a lifetime.


— Enduring, But Not Unique —

There may be no distinct and enduring
Personal identity after death.
For brainless, mindless souls share, with others,
The basic Ground of Existence: Space-Time.


— The Problems of Traditional Religion —

The Christian concept of reward and punishment
Handed out by an omnipotent, omniscient God,
Is derivative of the family experience—
The child and parent—a conception of our world.


— Geographically Arbitrary —

Most deep religious beliefs are shaped by
Little more than local social forces:
Jewish, Buddhist, Islamic, Christian, or none,
So then, how deep and meaningful are they?


— Our Cousins —

The chimps, with whom we share 98%
Of our DNA, through common ancestors,
Are just about as special as we are,
For they have consciousness and feelings too.


— Ground-Of-Determination (G-O-D) —

G-O-D is merely the quantum wave function
Of the entire universe, hardly some
Vengeful and overly emotional
Superbeing who thrives on adoration.


— “The All” and “The One” —

Energy is eternal, for it can
Neither be created nor destroyed,
Being made but of itself, omnipresent;
It’s the Mother of all Reality.
  
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