[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com Starting with something 'small', then on to the entire universe in a future post… Perhaps the brain is holographic in its experience and memory, as many have surmised from experiments on rats. In the brain, past experience might serve as the reference beam. New incoming information is combined with the experiences (memories) of the past to create an interference pattern. Almost immediately, the new information becomes part of the reference beam and learning has occurred. As each new piece of information arrives at the brain, a new interference pattern is created and again becomes part of the reference background. This constantly shifting interference pattern provides the mind with a continually changing model of reality; however, what is the laser-like beam? Consciousness?

It could very well be Austin,depends on how you view it.

regards michael.

[not2too]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick So then the territory is.... regards michael.

The territory arises when the map of experiencing by an experiencer is simply dropped.

[austintorn@aol.com]

LIFE IS BUT A DREAM

What we think is hard reality in a dream is but a grand illusion. The sights and sound are seen and heard, but do not exist as such, although, at the time, we would swear that they do. The random brain waves and memories woven from the frequency domains are there, although they come from static and noise that the brain tries to make sense of as best it can in its half-awake state. We seem to feel and touch things in our dreams as well as taste and smell, but this reality does not exist, as we realize when we wake up.

And so waking reality is an illusion as well. Sound and color waves exist, perhaps, somewhere out there, but it is our consciousness that turns them into sound and color. Perhaps the externally viewed world is not even three-dimensional but that we are made to see it so. All that’s really out there are perhaps differing frequencies and waves of light and sound and existence that originate somewhere, as when a TV station broadcasts to a TV set tuner. Reality may be like a hologram, as it is when we have night dreams. Matter, as we know it, may not exist, thus the saying “Never matter, ever mind”.

Why do twin photons emitted from sub-atomic collisions seem to still act as they are the same particle, for example, when we polarize one, the other polarizes to the same state even when it is farther than the speed of light can reach? Well, because they are still the same particle in some reality, although not in our illusion. Why does a photon shot at some holes go through every one of them unless we try to find out which one by measuring it? Because, in the quantum holographic world, all possibilities exist simultaneously imposed upon one another until our consciousness sorts out one path at random in our local illusion of reality.

In our possibly holographic universe, everything is connected to everything; there is truly a universe in a grain of sand. This connectedness is a form of rudimentary perception, so to speak, in itself.

[mkirkpatrick]

There is indeed Austin a universe in a grain of sand!All that we think of as real and solid,is
actually an illusion,so then,what is really real?



regards michael.

[not2too]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick There is indeed Austin a universe in a grain of sand!All that we think of as real and solid,is actually an illusion,so then,what is really real? regards michael.

I AM


not2too

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by not2too I AM not2too

I second that,if I am here that IS?



regards michael.

[austintorn@aol.com]

What physical evidence is there of a hologram within this universe or more accurately this dimension in which consciousness’ interpret the interference pattern that awareness uses to assume assume reality?

Some are suggesting that the CMBR background noise (the microwave spectrum of light) found in every directions of our dimension may not be a remnant of the so-called Big Bang. It may just be that this microwave background radiance could be the source interference pattern of the Holograph in which our reality exists.

This light radiance passes, perhaps, through a very complex matrix somewhat like DNA.

[austintorn@aol.com]

What more evidence is there of a holographic universe beyond some flimsy suppositions about the CMBR?

Let us remember that current day holograms project an extra, third, dimension from two that are real, so let us proceed one dimension at a time…

The entropy that can be contained in any given volume of space can not be any larger than the entropy of the largest black hole that can fit in that space. The more massive the black hole, the larger the surface area of the event horizon. This means the maximum entropy for any region of space is determined by surface area, not by volume. This is counterintuitive because entropy is an extensive variable, being directly proportional to mass, which is proportional to volume (all else being equal, including the density of the mass). If entropy of ordinary mass is also proportional to area, this implies that volume itself is somehow illusory: that mass occupies area, not volume, and so the universe is really a hologram which corresponds to the information encoded on its boundaries.

Could it be that only our third dimension is projected as an illusion? The entropy of a black hole seems to depend only on the surface area of the event horizon of the black hole, not on its volume. So why does our third dimension play no role? Because if everything seen comes from the interference patterns of a 3D hologram, it could be projected from a 2D surface somewhere. Everything is connected to everything, in a hologram, the same as is indicated by quantum entanglement. Does this facilitate our perception of our local reality? Is this everything interpenetrating everything a form of rudimentary perception in and of itself? Are our abilities to have virtual realities in night dreams telling us something profound about how reality works or are night dreams just a isolated product of our imaginations and memories to give us some practice in living and/or to sort out the day’s events?

[not2too]

"Are our abilities to have virtual realities in night dreams telling us something profound about how reality works or are night dreams just a isolated product of our imaginations and memories to give us some practice in living and/or to sort out the day’s events?"

Are not our daytime "awake" perceptions and our night time "dreaming" perceptions occurring in much the same way in the brain? When we are asleep, we are paralyzed from the neck down by inhibitory circuits originating in the brain stem so that we won't jump out of bed and act on our dreams. Our dreams are "real" to our neural brain maps, and seem to be resulting in perceptual mapping that "looks like 'external' reality" to our brain. I think this could be "telling us something profound about how reality works".

Best,
not2too

[austintorn@aol.com]

True, the the dream simulation model is the same for when we are awake. I inspected some items in my dreams close up and they they certainly looked the same.