Dreams, or Reality?

[melanie]

The Dreaming Soul

Abstract ideas without any form run like rivulets along a country road,
meandering through time like a half forgotten memory.

Intelligent intellect analyzes form, and makes logical leaps of understanding,
rarely seeing its mysterious properties as something with life and soul.

Dreams within different dreams, reflecting so many myriad ideas and concepts,
each one a facet on the gem stone of life.
Homogenies offspring lacks diversity and flow, and faceted things are far prettier you know.

I like diversity; it gives life to dream’s infinite possibility. Seeds of ideas falling into the soil of its potential,
and unfolding into flowers that have arisen from all of the shit this planet has ever been through.

It is divine, and yet it is degrading, and it comes out like a sublime melody that each experiences differently.
Influential motions of populations, changes quickly in very little time;
the wave effect multiplying, the snowball gathering mass as it flows downhill.

It is all nothing but dream, a shift in mind,
a shift in reality…and yet there are consciousnesses like boulders, and they do not want to grow,
or move beyond the confines of where they now exist.
They block flow, and hinder travel,
when we as groups seek passage toward something greater than where we are now.

Yet boulders cannot withstand great upheaval, and they will crumble under the weight of earth’s changes.
Over time, even the winds will wear them down.
Change is inevitable, and with change brings a newness, a freshness to life.

It is newness that brings wonderment, an ignorance of something we did not previously know.
It is this ignorance that brings childlike curiosity,
and it’s lack of ignorance that brings knowledge and wisdom.

Falling, falling, falling, beyond the macro, and into the micro; I can see forever here.
No matter how deep I dive, no matter how many worlds I enter, there are always more beyond this one.
Sentient life? Sentient life is everywhere! Sentience lay in every living cell, and every living creature.
Everything of course has its own agenda and purpose, and it is aware of its job,
no less than you are aware of yours!

Sentient life, and yet it is not sentient; it is a pool of chemicals, biological processes,
electromagnetic frequencies, and functions, working in symbiosis,
creating this cellular network of existence we have come to call life.

Diving even deeper, I fall past the boundaries of order, and plummet into disorderly worlds within the in between.

Here form is but a thought, and not yet manifest into the solid world of permanency.
Here, life is moldable, and thoughts create so much.
Abstract understandings that you completely grasp, and yet there are no words to make sense of them,
in a language that we have known.
Paintings coming to life, objects that speak, people with odd appearance, and physical laws that seem impossible.
Here lay the world of chaos, here lay the world of dream.

Within and without it’s tapestries do weave, a pattern of flow, that come to bear their essence upon the web work of your soul.

See not what is before you, but read between the lines, pay attention to the subtleties,
and innuendos that blatantly lay open for all to see.
There is nothing truly hidden, for those who will look with open eyes.
Life will always work toward the truth of our desires, and the truth of our fears.
We are dream’s manifestations, we are characters on the stage.

We take so seriously the game we play, and often go on to complain about it another day.
Can’t change it? Get used to it. That is what they say.
Be grateful for what you have, and don’t demand more, at least I’m alive.
Alive? Alive? Like a house cat longing for the outdoors, like a rat wanting free of it’s cage…I want to feel my wings!

And so I rise above the confusion, I rise above the clamor, of ideologies, and religion,
governmental dictates, and genetic tendencies that cry out to be freed.
There, beyond the horizon, I can see where earth meets sky, and I know there is a balance.
The balance I find, within myself.
Destination unfolds from within, and the pathway now is clear, I have nothing to fear.
The body is but a moment in the memory of life, but the dreaming soul is forever.

I am. I dream.

And onward does the spiral turn.

[austintorn@aol.com]

Last night’s dream was that I was in downtown Poughkeepsie, not the greatest place, and had to take a taxi, which proceeded to drive over curbs (then bump was not felt as much as it should have been), up big hills and over really unpassable terrain with great ease. I was only half lucid, I guess, and so I thought that it must be some virtual reality amusement park ride. There were some really glorious curving icicles atop the stone hills, tusk shaped, something not really possible, along with icy rivers that were no problem to cross over.

So, is that dream experience a part of me now?

[Tarina]

Hi Tarina...welcome to the TOE. Have you ever had the experience of Deja Vue and then realized that it is something that you previously dreamed. I have had that experience many times in my life and always find it quite mysterious. It always makes me wonder if in the dream state we are actually closer to the future events that might appear in our lives. Strange stuff, marked by incredible feelings when Deja Vue is experienced....


Mikal

Hello Mikal, thank you for the Welcome! And yes I have experienced deja vue at different times in my life. It really does make one instantly stop and ponder. I have also had the same recognition of the certain moment being one that I had dreamed of. I one time had a very unsettling experience that was a warning of sorts. As you mentioned getting closer to future events in the dream state. Yes, and I sometimes have wondered if a certain place feels familiar, had I lived there before, or simply passed through in a different lifetime. Perhaps even astral travelled over the particular terrain. There are so many possibilities, it certainly stops me and makes me really wonder.

[Tarina]

The problem is the origin of life and its brief existence in the universal time scale.

As I read all of your posts AntonioLao, I know without a doubt that you are an intellectual that I would pale beside. But to sit and read them is an enlightening experience to say the least! One thing I wonder about, how does the universe have a scale of time? It is for us humans to measure every concept that comes to mind, why we seem to need time. To understand and anylitically describe, weigh, measure, etc. Ciao for now.....

[AntonioLao]

why we seem to need time.

Because it is the only physical concept for a physical quantity that moves at a constant rate not accelerating or decelerating. However, where and when it is combined into spacetime as in Einstein's special theory of relativity, spacetime can be dilated or slowed down. Nonetheless, in quantum mechanics (QM), time reversal needs experimental verification. The problem between relativity and QM is the need of a physical background for both matter and energy. This background is the spacetime continuum in relavity but not in QM. Fortunately, if spacetime is quantized into squares of energy then it can be used as the background for both relativity and QM.

[austintorn@aol.com]

Hi dream girl.

[Tarina]

Hello Honey-O.
I had the oddest dream last night, it all stemmed from past abuses on my mother and brothers side. If I could write down my dreams, I could make a good buck or two for their movie rights! I am not kidding, they are so out there, that if my dreams could be reproduced, It would make an awesome movie!

[tess]

Very interesting replies. Unfortunately,science says that our dreams are just a product of our brain and as such ;are just our neurons playing a game of our subjective consciousness

[tess]

That what does not exist cannot cease to exist.

I surmise this statement just proved the existence of absolute consciousness.

No it did not.

[tess]

Relative reality where every-thing is related relative to every thing else.
inter-related...all is one.


There is absolutely no psychological center to be found in reality what so ever.


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Yes it is. We are part of the universe and as such our vision /missguided and subjective/ is a part of this.