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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Thanks TP...coincidentally in our recent fiscal budget a huge proportion of the budget went to the creation of creating 423,000 new school spaces for children beginning 3 years of age. There are presently big protests being planned here in all attempts to stop this and I imagine they will surface very shortly and continue on through the summer.

    Excellent video by the way...thank you for approaching the complexity of the family here, I have not approached that yet in this ongoing discussion....

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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    ALTERNATIVE LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS
    Inter-connecting system of alternative learning environments and agencies filled with Therapists.

    It is into this vast; mass of entanglement the young boy was thrust and dealt with at the most tender and precarious point in his young ongoing life and development


    What could we say would give any indication that a young person had a great deal of possibility and potential for their future?

    Although the learning experience for the boy had to have been a deeply inner distressful time, he did keep up academically. Outside of academics he won every public speaking event from grade three to seven, he revealed refined abilities for art, was a young enthusiast for beautiful poetry and excelled on the stage in drama class…

    However, you can break the creative spirit that defines a young person’s life force and you can remove the preservative values that lie as reasons for them to endure life’s sufferings patiently.

    Now how does Behaviorism break that creative spirit when a young person like the boy becomes targeted?
    They set the worse consequences to lock into the young teens strong inclination for higher experimentation natural to the adolescent stage of development. And yes as a society we have laced their experimental environment with the greatest poisons they will test.
    The young boy was not an angel, not a bad kid but just a normal teen passing through a necessary stage in life.

    No kid is a rocket scientist as he paves his way and young people are far short of any sense of good judgement or well-defined decision making power at this tender age—small mistakes will be had but for the boy the lesson learned would be too much for a young boy to bear and find any hope in life.

    It was a small mistake that banned the boy for good from the right to go to school along with a warning of no trespass on the property and hence the young boy, not even half through grade nine was thrust into that mass of inter-connected systems where alternative learning environments became his only hope for an education.

    The ban brought the Agency of Child Protection Services into his life—more demands to drug him and more declining those demands. He was first sent to what is called a “closed safe house” for behavior therapy. Upon returning home he sought out his best gal, stepped on school property, was charged and that charge brought into his life an army of lawyers, court cases, fines and then probation. One small mistake had taken him to the label of Young Offender and being a young criminal.

    The boy’s first alternative learning environment which was mandatory was a pig farm where credits for school would be attained by cleaning up after the pigs, feeding the chickens and keeping the barn cleaned.

    The second mandatory placing was an establishment for all kids who had fallen through the cracks of education, had become immersed in real criminal behavior and whom were pharmacuetically brain drugged to the hilt. Education there was mainly along the lines of therapy for disfunctional behavior. This too, was the attainment of educational credits. Absolutely nobody could stop this madness in his life, as it was all tied to “probation.”

    When young teens have had enough, they do tend to become “runners.” I once met up with a group of these scally-wags telling them I was not there to judge or condemm but to learn and understand. They said “running” or running away is to move away from those who are caught in seeing you from somebody elses influence and its hanging with strangers where you can be yourself and further get to know yourself.

    But running is another mistake and the consequence is grim which the boy discovered. The police arrive, pepper-spray you in the face, arrest you and take you away.

    Now can you imagine a young 17 year old from a small country town, a time in life when the young are overly self-conscious of their bodies—and the police take you to a county jail which acts as a holding center for hardened criminals who act in high profile crimes, and are awaiting placement in maximum security prisons.
    Imagine the mandatory anal examination! Abit of a struggle to avoid something so invasive and it’s a complete strip-down and left naked in a strait jacket on a small thin cot under the constant monitoring eye of a cell camera—and you are left like that for the next 36 hours.

    After a weekend in this hell—its court and sentencing to three months in a closed detention center for youth—closed means closed…letters arrive home with long whited out spaces. Then you turn eighteen in there—it must seem like an eternity to a young person!

    “Suicide is the ultimate expression of self-restraint.”—Joseph Chilton Pearce, Cultural Historian.

    You get out and in exactly six months at eighteen—you are dead by your own hand….

    We are left to ask why the need for a social experiment? Why would we allow our youngest menbers to be criminalized even before they have a chance to stand in their society and claim a small space? How much could they do or hope to be without a reputation to hold them up in a world that grows ever more complex and is tremendously expensive to exist in?? Would they feel hopeless??

    With an aching heart we wonder why?? And here it is as simple as Durkheim said, “Integration into the collective, is the action of acceptance—its strengh has preservative value to staying and enduring through life….”

    For those who beared with me here…thank you!

    Regards Mikal
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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    When young teens have had enough, they do tend to become “runners.” I once met up with a group of these scally-wags telling them I was not there to judge or condemm but to learn and understand. They said “running” or running away is to move away from those who are caught in seeing you from somebody elses influence and its hanging with strangers where you can be yourself and further get to know yourself.
    Originally posted by Mikal
    We are all 'runners' in some sense, at some times.

    I spent last even with my friend who lost her husband most suddenly, but a few months ago. We do not spend much time together, and yet we are close, emotionally and psychologically from shared past experience and impending loss of close family, in the normal course of life.

    She has just now returned from 'running', though to those who do not know her, they saw but the amazing activity of a 'work-a-holic'.

    No. She is a very hard worker, true.

    Yet, she was handling her pain in the best way she knew how, aiding others, while giving of her self, her deep personal loss transformed into a benefit for others.

    As you note, Mikal, the immature mind, or youth, which are not always one and the same, may be lacking in the knowledge of how to use their pain or where to turn for help, and which often has tragic consequences for those involved, and is a loss and a recrimination to our greater society.
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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikal View Post
    ALTERNATIVE LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS
    Inter-connecting system of alternative learning environments and agencies filled with Therapists.

    It is into this vast; mass of entanglement the young boy was thrust and dealt with at the most tender and precarious point in his young ongoing life and development


    What could we say would give any indication that a young person had a great deal of possibility and potential for their future?

    Although the learning experience for the boy had to have been a deeply inner distressful time, he did keep up academically. Outside of academics he won every public speaking event from grade three to seven, he revealed refined abilities for art, was a young enthusiast for beautiful poetry and excelled on the stage in drama class…

    However, you can break the creative spirit that defines a young person’s life force and you can remove the preservative values that lie as reasons for them to endure life’s sufferings patiently.

    Now how does Behaviorism break that creative spirit when a young person like the boy becomes targeted?
    They set the worse consequences to lock into the young teens strong inclination for higher experimentation natural to the adolescent stage of development. And yes as a society we have laced their experimental environment with the greatest poisons they will test.
    The young boy was not an angel, not a bad kid but just a normal teen passing through a necessary stage in life.

    No kid is a rocket scientist as he paves his way and young people are far short of any sense of good judgement or well-defined decision making power at this tender age—small mistakes will be had but for the boy the lesson learned would be too much for a young boy to bear and find any hope in life.

    It was a small mistake that banned the boy for good from the right to go to school along with a warning of no trespass on the property and hence the young boy, not even half through grade nine was thrust into that mass of inter-connected systems where alternative learning environments became his only hope for an education.

    The ban brought the Agency of Child Protection Services into his life—more demands to drug him and more declining those demands. He was first sent to what is called a “closed safe house” for behavior therapy. Upon returning home he sought out his best gal, stepped on school property, was charged and that charge brought into his life an army of lawyers, court cases, fines and then probation. One small mistake had taken him to the label of Young Offender and being a young criminal.

    The boy’s first alternative learning environment which was mandatory was a pig farm where credits for school would be attained by cleaning up after the pigs, feeding the chickens and keeping the barn cleaned.

    The second mandatory placing was an establishment for all kids who had fallen through the cracks of education, had become immersed in real criminal behavior and whom were pharmacuetically brain drugged to the hilt. Education there was mainly along the lines of therapy for disfunctional behavior. This too, was the attainment of educational credits. Absolutely nobody could stop this madness in his life, as it was all tied to “probation.”

    When young teens have had enough, they do tend to become “runners.” I once met up with a group of these scally-wags telling them I was not there to judge or condemm but to learn and understand. They said “running” or running away is to move away from those who are caught in seeing you from somebody elses influence and its hanging with strangers where you can be yourself and further get to know yourself.

    But running is another mistake and the consequence is grim which the boy discovered. The police arrive, pepper-spray you in the face, arrest you and take you away.

    Now can you imagine a young 17 year old from a small country town, a time in life when the young are overly self-conscious of their bodies—and the police take you to a county jail which acts as a holding center for hardened criminals who act in high profile crimes, and are awaiting placement in maximum security prisons.
    Imagine the mandatory anal examination! Abit of a struggle to avoid something so invasive and it’s a complete strip-down and left naked in a strait jacket on a small thin cot under the constant monitoring eye of a cell camera—and you are left like that for the next 36 hours.

    After a weekend in this hell—its court and sentencing to three months in a closed detention center for youth—closed means closed…letters arrive home with long whited out spaces. Then you turn eighteen in there—it must seem like an eternity to a young person!

    “Suicide is the ultimate expression of self-restraint.”—Joseph Chilton Pearce, Cultural Historian.

    You get out and in exactly six months at eighteen—you are dead by your own hand….

    We are left to ask why the need for a social experiment? Why would we allow our youngest menbers to be criminalized even before they have a chance to stand in their society and claim a small space? How much could they do or hope to be without a reputation to hold them up in a world that grows ever more complex and is tremendously expensive to exist in?? Would they feel hopeless??

    With an aching heart we wonder why?? And here it is as simple as Durkheim said, “Integration into the collective, is the action of acceptance—its strengh has preservative value to staying and enduring through life….”

    For those who beared with me here…thank you!

    Regards Mikal
    It seems senseless. We have friends who raised foster children. One took his own life. We haven't felt close enough to discuss the circumstances in detail but you relate some of the things that were factors. And the impact on those in the family is devastating.

    Sympathy and regards.

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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Quote Originally Posted by labelwench View Post
    We are all 'runners' in some sense, at some times.

    I spent last even with my friend who lost her husband most suddenly, but a few months ago. We do not spend much time together, and yet we are close, emotionally and psychologically from shared past experience and impending loss of close family, in the normal course of life.

    She has just now returned from 'running', though to those who do not know her, they saw but the amazing activity of a 'work-a-holic'.

    No. She is a very hard worker, true.

    Yet, she was handling her pain in the best way she knew how, aiding others, while giving of her self, her deep personal loss transformed into a benefit for others.

    As you note, Mikal, the immature mind, or youth, which are not always one and the same, may be lacking in the knowledge of how to use their pain or where to turn for help, and which often has tragic consequences for those involved, and is a loss and a recrimination to our greater society.
    Yes the phenomena of “running” has been the aim of tons of psychological theories, yet it took a little group of what I called, “the little band of merry men” to tell me the truth of it in one simple sentence. After all who could tell you better than those who “run”???

    It’s very kind of you to lend time and a listening ear to a friend who probably feels like she has lost a piece of herself.

    She sounds like my sister; she too transformed deep personal loss into a benefit for others. She became a Personal Support Worker for the elderly, allowing them their last days in the comfort of their homes rather than in a cold institution. This giving of herself is a very deep thing in her life now.

    Thank you for sharing….

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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogie View Post
    It seems senseless. We have friends who raised foster children. One took his own life. We haven't felt close enough to discuss the circumstances in detail but you relate some of the things that were factors. And the impact on those in the family is devastating.

    Sympathy and regards.

    Hi Bogie...thanks for kind words. Yes it does seem senseless does it not?

    I have felt tremendous responsibility to share all the knowledge of the above. Not having any history of suicide in the family I just felt it was oddly abnormal to die at eighteen in this way, when normally its the time of full bloom into life.

    After six years of research and having the full paper-trail and the boys personal journal, then discovering that a great percentage of his generation were all gone and most in similar scenarios....well the pieces come together. The above would be the real story, not assumptions! I did not want to blight my research from emotional elaborations so the paper-trail worked out well. Its strange too, because my study began when my sister commented one day, "I wonder if society can kill you" ??? You could never have anticipated my shock when I located Durkheim's book

    Durkheim put Fatalistic Suicide as a small note at the bottom of the page but the few characteristics he used to define this type of suicide enabled me to put it all together....

    Kids have to belong to the society they are born into...afterall a mere eighteen years is spent deep with family but the rest of your life must be spent in, with and interracting with society....gosh they can't get in if they are a social experiment!!!

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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

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    “Only society can pass a collective opinion on human life. Individuals share too deeply in the life of society for it to be diseased without their suffering infection. Because it is the whole, its ills are communicated to its parts. Society cannot be conscious of its own decadence (Low in moral standards) — or its suggestion for a minimal existence.”—Emile Durkheim

    Durkheim was referring here to the social structure, Institutional Society which he referred to as “large, impersonal (non-emotional) bureaucratic organizations that exist for economic purposes”—the economic purpose which is one of societies’ greater forces, creates the roles society will socially function in.

    If you take all lives, working and expressing minds, endless job, career and professional roles out of an Institution—all that remains is an empty, hollow building. So the life inside an Institution is the lives of society’s parts that are not conscious that their actions are capable of equally disturbing the general existence of a single life or driving a single life to a state of purposelessness or minimal existence.

    This is kind of an explanation of the phrase, “the blind leading the blind”—and hopefully the understanding that as society we hurt one another without even realizing what we are doing. All institutions function from architecture of hierarchy, plans, objectives, aims which are termed the “Mandate.” So if there is insidious intention to harm through Institutional Society it can only be at the highest level with those especially impersonally removed from the life that fills the inner spaces of the Institution—and as Durkheim stated these are those who become the social forces taking part in shaping and forming lives and become the pattern of social relations that bind people together and help to shape lives.

    “The facts of contemporary history are also facts about the success and failure of individual men and women.”—C. Wright Mills

    Unfortunately the cold facts in young Adolescent Fatalistic Suicide are a Social and Historical impersonal Social trade-off—a family loses a much loved young life, history has been enacted and society as a whole gains a new statistic—yet as the enactment of the whole becomes more shocking, its unconscious events become a mirror through which some, rise up out of the collective and become more fully conscious of a civilizations collective decadence.

    Understanding all this is an act of courage and compassion called forgiveness……



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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikal View Post
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    “Only society can pass a collective opinion on human life. Individuals share too deeply in the life of society for it to be diseased without their suffering infection. Because it is the whole, its ills are communicated to its parts. Society cannot be conscious of its own decadence (Low in moral standards) — or its suggestion for a minimal existence.”—Emile Durkheim

    Durkheim was referring here to the social structure, Institutional Society which he referred to as “large, impersonal (non-emotional) bureaucratic organizations that exist for economic purposes”—the economic purpose which is one of societies’ greater forces, creates the roles society will socially function in.

    If you take all lives, working and expressing minds, endless job, career and professional roles out of an Institution—all that remains is an empty, hollow building. So the life inside an Institution is the lives of society’s parts that are not conscious that their actions are capable of equally disturbing the general existence of a single life or driving a single life to a state of purposelessness or minimal existence.

    This is kind of an explanation of the phrase, “the blind leading the blind”—and hopefully the understanding that as society we hurt one another without even realizing what we are doing. All institutions function from architecture of hierarchy, plans, objectives, aims which are termed the “Mandate.” So if there is insidious intention to harm through Institutional Society it can only be at the highest level with those especially impersonally removed from the life that fills the inner spaces of the Institution—and as Durkheim stated these are those who become the social forces taking part in shaping and forming lives and become the pattern of social relations that bind people together and help to shape lives.

    “The facts of contemporary history are also facts about the success and failure of individual men and women.”—C. Wright Mills

    Unfortunately the cold facts in young Adolescent Fatalistic Suicide are a Social and Historical impersonal Social trade-off—a family loses a much loved young life, history has been enacted and society as a whole gains a new statistic—yet as the enactment of the whole becomes more shocking, its unconscious events become a mirror through which some, rise up out of the collective and become more fully conscious of a civilizations collective decadence.

    Understanding all this is an act of courage and compassion called forgiveness……



    Regards Mikal
    Several things come to mind when I read that. I thought of Graybeards recent post Click and of the aboriginals who took back the land and hung the office furniture of the former administrators from the trees. Maybe we have to be able to go back to get to a better place.

    I also thought of the understanding that Durkheim had of the total society being something different than the sum of its parts.

    And finally I wondered about how to put such tragedy behind; do the realizations of Durkheim and the forgiveness that we know leads to healing come with so much difficulty that some cannot forgive or forget?

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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Hi Bogie…beautiful video Greg dropped…and as I said it was hauntingly beautiful and raised goose bumps…smiles…

    Time heals all wounds…the depth of a families love and ability to know its members emerges to forgetting wounds inflicted by life—but only understanding allows forgiveness.

    The Universal symbol of life is a Rose-its fragrance is its essence...its beauty...however it is marked by a thorn!!

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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    GIVING THE FOREGROUND OF THE ANTI-FAMILY TRADITION


    Having reached the topic of “forgiveness” and being a lady who likes to play with words it would be wise to know that the forgiveness I am speaking of here is to turn the word “forgive” around until it becomes “give the fore” or advise, advance or share all things relating to or which came before those things one is struggling to forget and forgive.

    So forgiving in this case is to understand the animosity of all anti-family activists which spring from a long tradition of ideologues which must be illuminated in all hopes to defeat these efforts which continue to socially engineer the process of democratic pacification with the aim to replace the family with government services.

    A system is a collectivist, collection of an inter-locked series of anti-family utopian ideas. (The War Against the Family—William D. Gairdner )

    Quotes:

    “Our men and women—should be forbidden by law to live together in separate households, and all the women should be common to all the men, similarly children should be held in common, and no parent should know his child, or child its parent.”
    (Plato, The Republic, c. 375 B.C.)

    “There is no more brilliant hope on earth today than this new thought about—children as citizens with rights to be guaranteed only by the state—instead of our previous attitude of absolute personal ownership of the private home.”
    (Statements by Charlotte Gilman (1903), recorded in Heaven in a Heartless World, Christopher Lasch, 1977)

    “The marriage-bed is the most degenerating influence in the social order. The most merciful thing a large family can do for one of its infant members is to kill it.”
    (Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood, 1942 and founder of The International Planned Parenthood Federation—1948—Journal of Birth Control Reviews)

    “I contend that the modern school is betraying the youth of this country, the young are the future of any nation—by turning schools into a type of community centre which hands out shreds of whatever kind of education its average student finds most palatable and easiest to take.”
    (Dr. William Hume, Principle and Inspector of Schools, Toronto, March 1st, 1952)



    “The parental monopoly cannot be broken solely by indirect measures—the state must intervene directly, by, for example, taking the children from the parents during part of their growing up years…..It is best for the children and society that a universal and compulsory pre-school program become clearly indoctrinating, thus enabling society to intervene more directly when it comes to the children’s attitudes and values.” (The Phyllis Schlafly Report, June 1991)

    “Death education will play an important part in changing present attitudes—the introduction into education of questionnaires relating to the rightness or wrongness of suicide, euthanasia, infanticide, the right to die. (The School Councilor, The Phyllis Schlafly Report, May 198

    “No newborn infant should be declared human until it has passed certain tests regarding genetic endowment. If it fails these tests—it forfeits the right to live.”
    (Dr. James Watson/Dr. Francis Crick—1973 Issue of Time Magazine)


    “In order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from families and communally raise them”
    (Dr. Mary Jo Bane, Assistant Professor of Education, Wellesley College—1990)

    “From Plato to B. F. Skinner—dreaming of a system so perfect that no one will need to be good—Utopia gains its power over us, through the promise that we will escape moral struggle or the agony of choice between good and evil actions.”
    (Utopia Against the Family)

    “The death of a culture begins when its normative institutions fail to communicate ideals in ways that remain inwardly compelling.—the people will surrender control and the conduct and meaning of their lives to therapists”
    (Philip Rieff, The Triumph of the Therapeutic)

    Civilization is always dominated by character ideals. From Plato derived the ideal of Political Man. From Christianity derived the ideal of Religious Man. From Max Weber derived the ideal of Economic Man and Capitalism. From psychology derived the ideal of Psychological Man—this is our time in which life has become merely a psychological matter. The ancient moral order seen as descending from God, to parents and moral teachers, had to weaken to favor the powerful in society so moral fragmentation had to occur.
    This is what social engineering is about and why the elite or super-class financially support studies and social movements that will morally fragment a civilization.

    There must be radical de-politicalizing strategies to veer a government from running the business of a nation into engineering the behavior of people, interfering in the nature of their society or assaulting the preservation of their social institutions.
    You have to have a Darwin to destroy the character ideal of Religious Man. You have to have an economic takeover pushing globalism to destroy the character ideal of Economic Man. You have to have a Fredrick Engel’s pushing a Marxist philosophy to destroy the Universal social institution of the Family in order to destroy a society’s base and there must be moral fragmentation of society to make society rise from a Therapeutic base.


    Regards Mikal
    If I see a train coming and your on the track...if I don't tell you, it will be a pity for you and a shame on me....

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