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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Hi Mel...thank you for sharing your thoughts! You have given me several posts to respond to so this post is in response to your 1st post....then I shall get to the others....


    There is a fundamentally instinctive sense of balance in Nature and only man upsets it because unlike animals or plants which are aligned instinctively with Nature man is on an evolutionary journey in a search for his own center of self-consciousness. Other than evolution which is particular to each individual soul and occurs through the natural course of one’s life, man is not supposed to involve himself in the untapped powers of the life force. The ancients stated this was so because this force manifests the physical and spiritual universe, it permeates and links all levels of reality and it is the means by which all creation and human beings are to return to the Godhead or the source.

    Man is not supposed to tamper with what the ancients called spirits in the spirit world and what we call channeling.
    Man is not to tamper with the various forces in Nature.
    Man is not to tamper with lesser forms of occultism.
    Man is not to tamper with the day and night cycles of the earth.
    Man is not to harness the raw energies of elemental Nature.
    Man is not to tamper with genetic engineering.
    Man is not supposed to exploit Nature for consumptive purposes and technology.
    Man is not to contain elemental nature to a permanent cycle of restraint.

    These things and more tamper with the nature of earth’s natural processes.
    All researchers into the ancient Atlantean story agree that in the ancient writings, manuscripts, compendiums and the writings of ancient philosophers there are all the telltale signs that the Atlantean culture was heavily involved in harnessing the raw energies of elemental Nature, they were harnessing purely elemental forces therefore sidelining Nature’s natural processes.

    The ancients said that Nature has a definite intelligence and a sense of purpose which leads it to its own natural long-term cycles. When humankind interferes with this process Nature fights back in order to maintain its instinctively fundamental rule of harmonic balance, man can work with Nature but not subjugate Nature to his will. Nature’s intelligence will not accept intervention into its own subtle balance, that intervention being rampant SUBJECTIVITY on the part of humans or technological intervention on the part of governments or science. The Atlanteans as a civilization and culture took themselves to their own peril….man must not interfere into Nature’s sympathetic association with The Law of Cycles. True Astrology is not for degenerate mundane predictions; its original intended use was always for astronomical and other scientific knowledge concerning Nature and also for purposes of determining the best opportunities for spiritual development
    Now here is a quote to be pondered…
    “Nature was on the point of violent sympathetic reaction seemingly in line with the critical point of a major astrophysical or astrologically based-cycle which would have been seen as providing the natural trigger for an associated geological chain reaction.”
    (J. S. Gordon)



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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Yes Mel…I am familiar with “Pangaea” and the theory of continental drift. In response to that theory Richard Milton stated, “One can be sure that continents cannot really simply wander aimlessly over the surface of the earth, exceedingly STRONG FORCES must be applied to cause them to move through the powerful ocean crust. In fact when they do move, it is only under a force sufficient to fracture and plastically deform massive rocks of extremely high strength, a process that cannot occur uniformly but only in sudden, explosion like processes. The central problem with continental drift, or plate tectonics and the factor that delayed its acceptance for decades, is that no one so far has proposed a mechanism to drive the process.”

    Why does the geology of the planet behave as it does?

    Science assumes that the earth does not have enough organic energy of its own to generate the force needed to lift high mountain chains. That assumption was based on the assumption that the earth’s core passively consists of solid or near solid iron.

    In response to the assumption that the earth does not have enough organic energy of its own to generate the force needed to lift high mountains Richard Milton comments..
    “It has been calculated that the amount of heat generated by mantle convection great enough to cause continental drift would be between 1,000 and ten billion times greater than the rate of radiogenic heat generated in the crust as a whole, which currents…are impossible because either they would melt the earth in a very short time, or one would observe an enormously greater heat flux from the earth than is actually observed.”

    The ancient compendium relates that violent earthquakes are due to the Earths core energies receding while many volcanic phenomena are due to the expansion of those core energies.
    J.S. Gordon states, “The receding energies cause the crust to cool and shrink (thus pulling together in violent contraction) whilst the expanding energies force the magma to boil which causes volcanoes to erupt and landmasses or ocean beds to rise, because the crust has cooled and is not capable in the shorter term of liberating expansion. Consequently the crust’s resistance provides the inertial restraint which leads to the underlying magma generating such enormous upward force”

    Based on the ancient esoteric philosophy and knowledge of Nature the earth is composed of an electro-magnetic plasma that is highly sensitive and reactive (in terms of expansion and contraction, plus associated heat generation) to changes in the also electro-magnetically charged ionosphere. (J. S. Gordon)

    The suggestion that the substance of the Earths core is closely related to solar plasma and also reactive to electro-magnetic fluctuations in the ionosphere reflects a statement by the authors of The Geology of the Atlantic Ocean.

    “Changes in the dipolar field with periods of about 10,000 years have been recognized in the geological record. But few fluctuations produced polarity reversals. Frequency of reversals in the geological record commonly have been put a five per million years. However, it has been reported that only about half of all reversals are noted because of their short durations and reversals are due to infrequent reaction of the dipole field with the smaller and more rapidly fluctuating non-dipolar field where the latter acts as a sort of trigger. In addition, changes in frequency of magnetic reversals occur at times of tectonic change further indicating a coupling between the core and the upper mantle.
    At the time the earths dipolar magnetic field is absent during polarity reversal, the earths surface is not shielded against cosmic rays. Greater influx of cosmic rays then may produce mutations of species. (Darwin was not aware of this cyclically operative factor.)


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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    "Given the current censorship in physics / philosophy of science journals (based on the standard model of particle physics / big bang cosmology)" …..Quote by Mel…..


    This is an alternative translation of our planetary nature based on early, Hermetic science. (J. S. Gordon)

    Our planet, although a relatively solid body, in one sense mimics the solar system by having a central generator but also an outer crystal shell (the electromagnetically charged ionosphere) which expands and contracts in response to the photoelectric energies emanating from the sun which in turn produces a parallel response in the earths core (a highly energized and concentrated ball of electro-magnetic plasma) hence the phenomenon of gravity…this plasma, now concealed by the planetary mantle, undoubtedly rotating upon its own axis and itself capable of responsively cyclical expansion and contraction.

    In the 19th century, American electro-mechanical engineer and inventor J. W. Keely had a sympathetic presentment as to the above thought…. It is worth recording here.

    “As regards planetary volume, we would ask in a scientific point of view, how can the immense difference of volume in the planets exist without disorganizing the harmonious action that has always characterized them? I can only answer this question properly by entering into a progressive analysis, starting on the rotating etheric centres that were fixed by the Creator with their attractive or accumulative power. We will imagine that after the accumulation of a planet of any diameter, say 20,000 miles more or less, for the size has nothing to do with the problem, there should be a displacement of all the material, with the exception of a crust 5000 miles thick, leaving an intervening void between this crust and a center of a size of an ordinary billiard ball, it would then require a force as great to move this small central mass as it would to move the shell of 5,000 miles thickness. Moreover, this small central mass would carry the load of this crust forever, keeping it ever equidistant; and there could be no opposing power, however great, that could bring them together. The imagination staggers in contemplating the immense load which bears upon this point of center, where weight ceases…”this is what we understand by a neutral center.”

    The latest research from Lamont Doherty Earth Observatory in New York confirms that the core of the Earth appears to be rotating faster than the rest of the planet. J.S. Gordon argues, why should it do this and how could it do this unless it were composed of something other than what orthodoxy suggests? He further suggests it is the emergent energies from this neutral plasmic core. He further suggests this core provides the basis of that phenomenon known to us as gravity whilst the correspondingly influential force generated by the ionosphere produces its counterpart, levity (a force not yet recognized by our present-day science.)

    The nature of gravity and levity might be defined from one viewpoint as the negatively charged products of the energies emanating from both the core and the ionosphere, when returning to them, with the planets lower atmosphere being the zone of interaction. Hence gravity is called the weak force and levity is not even recognized as such. However, both of them fluctuate accordingly to the voltage, or electrical pressure, in the outer field, the ionosphere, the electricity in each, however, being of different qualities. But what medium actually connects or correlates these energies? The planetary aether!


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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    We may not call them cataclysms but that is what they are and their history lies in the changing earth's crust..this is not myth!!!

    Please reread the post, Mikal.

    It says straight out that cataclysms are real and and that beliefs in ancient myths are not the way to deal with them.

    Belief in ancient myths joins with other negative forces in our society to keep most of the world from advancing scientifically, economically, and socially at a time when a rapid advancement in these areas and others is absolutely essential for the survival of humanity. We are now probably only about a generation or two away from the catastrophic problems that are anticipated from global warming, pollution, and overpopulation: flooded coastal areas, severe climatic changes, epidemics caused by overcrowding, and starvation for much of humanity. Such disasters are predicted to generate worldwide conflict on a scale that could exceed that of the great twentieth century wars, with nuclear weapons in the hands of unstable nations and terrorist groups.

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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    There is no such thing as ancient myths. There are only esoteric allegories which ancient philosphers expressed through because they were initiates in sacred mystery schools, entrusted and sworn to secrecy with sacred knowledge and they expressed in this manner as a deliberate ploy to convey sacred knowledge in safely guarded terms which did not upset and undermine the existing society.

    We are not one generation away from catastrophic problems we are well immersed in them already and will see their peak in 2012....worldwide conflict we are already seeing....

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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Nothing that was ever thought of was a myth?

    The moon God is real? Zeus was real? The Islamic interpretations of Allah's wishes are real and true?

    Can't be, since many myths conflict and contradict.

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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Plato's Myth was describing the overall field of a sevenfold Kosmic system seen as the overall field of consciousness...Gaia enfolded by Ouranas, Gaia meaning matter and Ouranas meaning Mind.

    The Moon God and all other Gods were the interpretations of Universal forces and truths..

    Zeus symbolically represents the highest aspect of the Kosmic Mind, akin to the human spiritual Ego. Poseidon represents the field of Kosmic Desire and Hades represents the chthonic field of the Kosmic body form...

    Goddesses and nympths represented the minds constantly flitting range of interest. Thunderbolts is a metaphor for the power of the Kosmic will force.

    Prometheus symbolizes the Kosmic Imagination....the 3 titan brothers is an esoteric metaphor for three Kosmic states or being of consciousness..

    Waters, rivers, streams are metaphors for currents of passion...

    The breakdown in the Islamic religion and other religions is simply because we are in transition from one age to another and we are seeing the destruction of the systems that held up our civilization. This is not a first, we are not the first civilization to experience this...it is well recorded historically...

    We need to stop being ignorant of these things for the sake of human survival...


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    we are seeing the destruction of the systems that held up our civilization.

    This is what I am saying and so our info on the causes is useful to combat those trying to enforce their old myths upon our world.

    Those of the mythic age will not be ready for the shock of the new or global disasters.

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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Atlantis as a civilization and culture was not a myth. Even Homer spoke about Atlantis 300 years before Plato. So it should be assumed that it had to be public knowledge at that time.
    Also when every culture and civilization records a cataclsym they all know about and describe in the same way that is not myth Austin, that is the recording of their history of their times.
    Those who know and understand the mythic age are those who are prepared because the know the dynamics of change we are facing and why.

    Sorry but its not wise for humanity to lose its beginning...it leads to blind literalism in science, insensate materialism and knowledge left in prejudice blind alleys...


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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    I was not referring to any certifiable lost civilizations, but to myths that by their nature prevent progress to deal with any oncoming global disasters.

 

 

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