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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Quote Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com View Post
    science is too logical and too objective at the expense of the subjective and notional parts of us

    Science just didn’t get into it that much yet, for much lower information had to be gone through and figured out onto the way to there, but now they are further getting on with it, for, as usual, science marches on wherever it can. So, no ‘expense’, just first things first, for, let’s face it, the brain is the most complex entity in all the universe, a star, for example being a rather simple thing.

    For example, getting closer to explaining explaining time’s direction, sleep’s Purpose, feelings and the entire physical body being inextricably unified, free will, the workings of memory and how it even changes, how we interpret ‘reality’ through vision, what archetypes natural selection implanted in us, etc.

    Some is in:

    http://www.toequest.com/forum/your-t...per-toe-7.html

    And some in:

    http://www.toequest.com/forum/psycho...aranormal.html

    And more all over TQ.

    We find more and more out all the time about our nature and feelings and why and how we think things,

    even about consciousness in:

    http://www.toequest.com/forum/consci...explained.html
    Austin...lets not argue about science. Science is not the only discipline studying the mind and consciousness. Modern day Philosophers are...anthropologists are...even geologists and electrical engineers are studying the phenomenon of consciousness...and of course if we are observant enough we ourselves are the best arbiters....


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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    [QUOTE=melanie;87276]This is because the human ingenuity has till date is only conscious of matter energy at the base level of energy pyramid
    and totally thoughtless about the vortex of pyramid the Absolute energy of consciousness.

    It's ever latent, ever hidden, those with eyes that see, and ears that hear, will find what they are looking for ...
    Infinite potential is available to all of us.





    "Those with eyes that see and ears that hear.." Jesus

    Building perception to be more than it is entails breath control which serves to build up a highly developed and sophisticated sense of smell. (eyes that see or higher states of perception.) When you break the barrier between the five physical senses, attention turns inward....without the attention span, comes the rapid building of the auditory sense...without the attention span listening becomes hyper-active....

    "The Lapis Philosophorum signifies the self...alchemy is the process of individuation, the step by step development of the self from an unconscious state to a conscious state"...Jung

    This is the process to develop the eyes that see and the ears that hear....

    "There is nothing covered up, that will not be uncovered, nothing hidden that will not be made known...Matt. 1026

    This too is a reference to the eyes that see and the ears that hear.....

    Love your diamond...its a good analogy of the soul....

    Mikal
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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

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    It is to be understood that universal time is infinity, driven by the Absolute energy of Consciousness.
    Infinity is also is the nature of peace.
    Thus peace is an ingredient of universal time, which also influence the time scale of earth and other planets.
    When the time is peace, creative and conscious constructions take place and when the time is violent creative destructions takes place.
    Thus universe and time relationship is to be perceived within the comprehensive and holistic framework of energy – space – time
    to deduce scientific relationship between the three.

    Another interesting link here for anyone interested.
    http://www.worldpeacetech.com/july1.htm

    Thanks for your thoughts Mel...since my NDE I simply have known that time is crucial to understanding the universe, consciousness and of course the duration of our lives...

    Have you ever followed Timeparticles theory? I follow it because he gives me more insights into the importance of time and its relevance to the framework of the universe....

    I have to get into these links you have dropped..thanks...right now I am working for those on my team who are down ill from the stress of too many changes and huge cuts to our jobs and shifts...so time is crunched for the moment...I will get to them though....


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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Quote Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com View Post
    My real dad was a man of loving compassion and my step-father was about the most decent and fairest man I have met thus far in life...

    So was my dad loving and kind; he especially didn't want to be like his own father, who was strict. In general, as I indicated, the bulk of this was long ago, when even some decent men were duped (encultured) into this male supremacy role. This state has improved, even in a few churches like the Episcopal.

    The initial family of three is what it has to be, given an offspring, so the number '3' is not special or magic in that regard. There's a thread on how often '3' comes up, for it is a useful number state, such as a thing or a concept can have an opposite and a neutral.

    Also, hard to beat using facts that are known, as opposed to not, for any real analysis of life and its ways.

    Hi Austin...the number 3 is the most important number and is relevant in every important principle of thought....its importance cannot be dimmed...it has stood the tests of time from pre-history to the present....


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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Indeed, '3' is a great number for real things, showing separation from unity.

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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    "Every tension of opposites culminates in a release, out of which comes the "third." In the third, the tension is resolved and the lost unity is restored. There is an unfolding of the One to a condition where it can be known...unity becomes recognizable, had it not been resolved into the polarity of the One and the Other, it would have remained fixed in a condition of every quality......

    Carl Jung discussing the number 3


    "The union of opposites in the vessel of the ego is the essential feature in the creation of consciousness. Consciousness is the third thing which emerges out of the conflict of twoness. Out of the ego as subject versus the ego as passive victim, out of the ego as praiseworthy and good versus the ego as damnable and bad; out of a conflict of mutual exclusive duties...out of all such paralyzing conflicts can emerge the third, transcendent condition which is a new quantum of consciousness...

    Edinger, The Creation of Consciousness (1984)


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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikal View Post

    Have you ever followed Timeparticles theory?

    I follow it because he gives me more insights into the importance of time and its relevance to the framework of the universe....
    Yes, although not followed TP theory entirely ...only bits and bobs of the theory.
    From the posts i have read, i've enjoyed, and have been inspired immensely, especially love those fantasy images.


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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

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    right now I am working for those on my team who are down ill from the stress of too many changes and huge cuts to our jobs and shifts...
    ill from stress of what ? .. as if they have something to lose

    I used to get stressed once, then i decided to properly educate my mind.
    I transcended time and space into pure beingness.

    “In spirituality, the mind is utilized to get you to the frontier of the mind, to the edge of the mind, to that boundary between the mind and Being.
    Then you just leap off into Being.”

    '' Of all the things I've lost I miss my mind the most ''

    Consciousness is understanding what you really are.

    " I suppose it is because nearly all children go to school nowadays and have things arranged for them
    that they seem so forlornly unable to produce their own ideas. "
    --Agatha Christie

    "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education."
    --Mark Twain



    There is nothing ...............
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    awareness..............
    then................
    nothing...................
    no.................
    thing........................

    free your mind............

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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Quote Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com View Post


    Indeed, '3' is a great number for real things, showing separation from unity.
    An Esoteric Fragment

    Where is the gate, O Lanoo, which guards the triple-way?

    Within the sacred heart of Him Who is the threefold Path.
    I reach the gate and pass within, entering thus the Heart, through the means of wide compassion.

    How many gates are there, O Passer on the Way?

    The gates are seven, each leading to the center of a great sphere of bliss.
    By the one who seeks to know, the first gate must be found.
    That entered, in periodic cycles he will find the other six.

    You speak of wide compassion as the key that opens wide the gates.
    Explain in words the simplest the need that this involves.


    The need of gentle mercy, which knows and sees yet understands;
    the need of tears of crystal to wash away a brother's sins; the need of fiery courage that can hold a brother's hand,
    and lift and elevate him though all the world cry "nay";
    the need of comprehension, that has experienced and knows;
    the occult sense of oneness must guide unto the gate.

    What else will lead a man to the portal of the Path?

    Compassion first and conscious oneness;
    then death to every form that holds and hides the life;
    next wisdom linked with learning,
    and the wise use of the Word;
    speech of an occult nature and the silence of the Center,
    held in the noise of all the world.

    Can you, O Lanoo, blend these thoughts into a threefold charge?

    First Oneness, then the Word, and lastly Growth.

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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Hi Mel...you asked me about my co-workers ill from what?? I could only tell you that in all reality we live in a world of economics and money. At the end of the month when all these people's landlords arrive I am afraid they want money in their hand not excuses or tales of woe....the world is very much a place of money and lack thereof stresses those out with little ability to pass through stress or limited ability to firm up their lives in accordance to their new situation.

    I think consciousness is a combination of "knowing who you are" (being in your place of self-consciousness) + "understanding your own process followed in the steps of becoming" + now living with the perceptual intelligence (your metaphorical eye) which allows you a higher understanding of how this world works and the nature of the society you are participating in....

    "the leap into being"....I agree with you there Mel. If I were to draw a line that represented life, I would put "being" at the top, the point at which I descended from into life and I would put "becoming" at the bottom for along with the nature of life we are constantly changing and becoming....I think it might be the way of life that some will stay at the bottom enmeshed in the progress of becoming while others will turn and ascend back up the line going from becoming back to being....
    The latter could be a way of understanding you and I....


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