Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

[austintorn@aol.com]

There you go.

Thanks, but there's no 'me', nor do we construct TOEs—the Dream does it.

We only go through the motions, such as those who thought they were actually building the internet out of servers and computer programs. There is really no internet in actuality.

I like getting into the other side of a debate to further note the implications, even though there is no 'I'.

As the Dream made me a writer, 'I' can get into characterizations and other scenes easily.

By the way (the Dream made me say this), 2% of our population writes all the novels, TV and movie scripts, TV reports, etc. This is the way the Dream wanted it to appear, but of course only the Dream writes these and the soap operas of our fake dream lives.

The Dream is very stable in what it does, unlike night dreams, but it is really kind of like a DVD player showing a movie.

'You' don't get to make changes, because you don't exist, but that the Dream makes 'you' seem like a you that makes changes.

As for aches and pains and getting run over by a truck, it is only a dream truck giving the fake 'you' a dream pain in your fake dream broken leg.

This is all 100% obvious and self-evident (to the fake self) and if anyone doesn't believe it then it is that the Dream that wants this to appear as so, for the Dream rules.

[Mikal]

Well good morning all!!! Too bad a gal has to sleep and work back to back shifts, I missed all the action...smiles....great, feisty debate....(*) (_)...will be back to make some comments after my shift....

Regards Mikal

[austintorn@aol.com]

Good Morning smiley sweety Mikal who goes to fake work and think she's doing things, but the 'results' that you think are really happening are just constant dream images being presented to the 'you' that is not real either.

[Mikal]

I tell you what Austin, after 3 P.M....I will drag my aching imaginary bones and muscles back here after 8 hours of imaginary slugging and though all of the above will be major aching...my mind will be fresh and just like a sword....catch ya later...


Regards..smiley...

[austintorn@aol.com]

OK, but don't take the fake 'movie' of work too seriously, for it's not real in any way, shape, or form. Nor the 'tiredness'.

[sillysally]

Awe man, I got out of bed for nothing this fine fake morning.

It's still a great day to fake being alive!

[SteveA]

Well good morning all!!! Too bad a gal has to sleep and work back to back shifts, I missed all the action...smiles....great, feisty debate....(*) (_)...will be back to make some comments after my shift....

Regards Mikal

You didn't miss much

Here's an idea you might find interesting. A lot of information is visual but there are other more subtle forms like intuition or emotions.

But I think these are all built upon a common mathematical landscape and some of these could be similar to almost instinctive understandings.

Here's a link showing some examples http://www.cecm.sfu.ca/~loki/Papers/Numbers/node9.html

This one here happens to be particularly beautiful http://www.cecm.sfu.ca/~loki/Papers/Numbers/node9.html

Anyway, the idea is basically just that intuition arises from an equivalent of being able to do computations like this in a more subconscious manner, even if not that precise.

(I'm once again just guessing that's probably an idea you'd find interesting)

Ok, I'm off for now. See ya

[melanie]

Steve, there is no ‘you’. Only the dream is posting. Nor is there an ‘Austin’ , ‘Melanie’ or ‘Leskey’ to post to.

It is only the dream talking to itself.

You are not the person, you are THAT which is aware OF the person.

In other words- the person is an object in Awareness,
and so are all states including states of presence and absence.

Real Presence is not a state, IT is That Which Is.

Since IT IS ALL THERE IS, IT cannot be reached.

IT is like space, and the I that wants to reach IT is like an object in space trying to reach space.

Only the realization that it is impossible to not be in space will put the object at ease..
Only the realization that there is no-thing but Presence will dissolve the agitation of trying to be present.

Just like space has no location, but is the container of all locations, Presence is not a state, but the container of all states.

IT is not an experience, but the experiencing itself.

IT is like a lens that can point everywhere, but never directly to itself.

IT is like a light beam, which cannot shine light on itself- it IS the light.

In the same way IT is what you truly are- to close to see as it is the seeing itself.

IT is the canvas on which all changes, all states, experiences, thoughts and feelings
(or the absence of them) appear.

IT is the Unchanging Presence behind and in all manifestations.

When the recognition of this Presence comes in,
the identification shifts from the I-person-object to the Ultimate Subject.

Please see through these words, as they may be misleading. They may seem to suggest,
that something has to happen, but the realization shows,

that nothing has to happen for IT to be AS IT IS.

ALL IS CONSCIOUSNESS-----ONE WITHOUT A SECOND.


(only a rare few ever come to realize / grasp this nondual truth,
most of us monotonously sleepwalk through this dream,never seeing the magic of it all, rather, they complain about one thing after the other,
those that do awaken to the dream, live the most amazing extraordinary lives,
they truly live this dream to the hilt,
for they know they are the immortal spirit / soul A sojourner through infinity
and that's what nature is, it is forever changing form,
illuminating us with it's wondrous display of hypnotic beauty, and all we do is bow our heads, and head off to our weary grindstone places of work / school etc, each day,
while nature lives in the most serene breathtaking beautiful harmony with itself,
it's almost as if nature is waiting for humans to be completely at ease with themselves too )

[Mikal]

I have been examining my thread here since last night’s ongoing discussion. I think what I would like to point out is that I want this thread on consciousness, transcendence and integration, to be logically coherent.

I do not want to discuss consciousness from the perspective that we are a dream or that we are not really here.
I have carefully and diligently studied matter de-densification and understand it completely not because somebody said this is matter de-densification but because I experienced it and the truth is found in the experiential.

We are here and reality is really out there! Our physical body is composed of gross physical matter which contains our carbon-based elemental anatomical biology which in Density 1 is our molecular structure.

When consciousness (standing waves of sound/tonal vibration and sequences of stationary points of light) begins to merge into Mind (the energies of dimensional fields and portions of consciousness having higher bands of frequency) it is the activation of higher energies which begins to transmute our molecular anatomical biology to the state of being silica based. As our biology transmutes to being silica based, our physical body passes through levels of semi-etheric, etheric and pre-matter Hydro-plasmic densities through which consciousness begins to achieve mastery of the organic process of Transmutational Dimensional Ascension which simply means to fulfill one’s Individual evolutionary blueprint. This is not a lofty spiritual concept; it is a literal, scientific process concerning the evolution of consciousness and biology within the Laws of Energy Mechanics. Because it is consciousness merging with the Individual Center or the nuclear Atom, it is the comprehension of you as a soul.

For anyone questioning this process as possible I ask you to return to Leskey’s post on page 43, Post#424.

Steve and Lesky, I will have to read your posts and comment later…after a grueling shift, its coffee time….smiles….

Regards Mikal

[Mikal]

Earlier I ask a question about Gravity and does it pertain to our higher anatomical body. Well Lesk, sent me a link on Super-light, One Source and One Force by Dr. John V. Milewski, Professional Engineer who has invented Crystals.

Here is a pertinent quote very relevant to what I am talking about in this thread...

"Gravity is not an intrinsic property of matter, neither is inertia. These secondary forces are both formed by the reaction of matter to the dynamic field of SuperLight. Gravity is not an attraction! It is the result of a universal pressure, exerted by SuperLight as it rains in from infinity, from all directions, onto every object. Materials are not 100% transparent to SuperLight. I estimate, perhaps about 99.99999999% transparent. As a consequence, all material domains, all "matter", experiences an acceleration caused by SuperLight. Every "particle" is affected by a slight drag, or pressure differential, as SuperLight travels past and through them."

I think I just found one answer....

Regards Mikal