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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    A point of clarification:

    The term 'lack of professionalism' refers not to spelling, editing or personal style, but rather to conduct unbecoming.
    So many paths to the same destination,
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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    lol rephrasing, I think its because of the miscommunication that causes the lack of professionalism.. that people get mad because others are not accepting a point of view, or are completely lacking in support of the subject. Although those people feel they are with in the relm of their rights because some one else didn't make them selfs clear to begin with..or know what they were talking about.. so on.. the ignorance of ignorance. or just a lack of respect.. both ways..

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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Lively discussions are encouraged on ToeQuest, but about ideas only, not personalities, although some may feel that their ideas have become them, in a way, being one and the same.

    Bashing 'God', evolution and such is fine, as well as the shredding of ideas. When doing so it is advantageous to provide reasons and evidence, lest some suggest evasion via generality without specifics.

    The thread owner directs the further eddies of the thread, such as "man vs. animal" or '40', to give two recent examples. Then the responses follow this direction, pro or con or a different interpretation. The idea of TQ is then that original poster then addresses the info, and so forth.

    There is a clear boundary between kicking the ideas versus kicking the people, as obvious as day vs. night, and so that is no refuge whatsoever and some may wish to report those cases. Saying one is an ignoramus, a clown, dumb, full of stupidity, liar, fool, etc., are easy to spot. The best way to further one's ideas is to provide evidence up front, not even having to be ever asked for it, and, when, bashing other ideas, provide all the evidence for that as well.

    As for smearing of people through generalities, that is not allowed.

    As for smearing of people, period, that is not allowed.

    No matter how much a person may hate to hear an evidenced opinion contrary to their own notions, it does nothing to combat the person's character instead of the contrary idea itself.

    Those who note "unprofessionalism" should report it widely and often if they say it is so much happening. Don't be afraid to hit the report button, for that is the way to begin to get rid of it. There are "prisons" for repeat offenders. Or, as in other cases, they are not here anymore.

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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    NOTICE: Kindly read the following carefully, as moderation will now adhere strictly to ToeQuest guidelines.

    Quote Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com View Post
    Lively discussions are encouraged on ToeQuest, but about ideas only, not personalities, although some may feel that their ideas have become them, in a way, being one and the same.

    QUOTE: ROBERT

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    Thread Prefixes

    There are many paths to the TOE. In the Land of TOE, some members prefer one type of path while other members prefer another, and some members don't care what path is taken as long as they get closer to their destination. But what happens when a member takes a path only to discover it's the wrong type of path. Several things might happen. Some members will immediately leave that path to find another, others will create their own path, but some will stay on the wrong path and criticize those who made the path or those who travel the path. They may say the travelers of the path are lacking in intelligence or lacking flexibility in their thinking and then try to change the path to fit their own vision and, if unsuccessful, they will booby trap the path. This is disruptive and leaves members lost and unable to find any path.

    I have solved this problem by using signposts. Before you travel a path, check the signpost. If the signpost says "Scientific-Based Discussion" then you must refrain from offering your alternative views that are not based on science. If the signpost says "Alternative Views" then you must refrain from criticizing members who make comments that are not scientifically sound. These alternative views have value. They lead to brainstorming, creativity, leaps of logic that may trigger that key thought or idea which brings us closer to the TOE. When the signpost is blank then thoughts of science and non-science co-mingle to produce explosive entertainment for some, but for others.... The Theory of Everything!

    ...The default is "no prefix" and means you want a unified discussion where both science and alternative views are welcome. Choose the prefix for the conversation desired and the moderators will work to enforce your choice. When you post in anothers' thread, be sure to check the starting post so you know the topic of the thread and the type of discussion desired. When looking in a forum at the list of threads, the prefix (either Science: or Alternate: ) will precede the thread title.

    Another useful feature can be found below the thread list in the "Display Options" panel. You can now display threads of a specified type. You just need to choose the prefix from the dropdown menu and then click the "Show Threads" button.

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    We now have three prefixes. Be sure to choose an appropriate prefix for your thread so members know how to respond and moderators have a better idea how to moderate.

    (no prefix) - This is what you see as the default. If you submit a thread without a prefix, you will see the note, "You must select a thread prefix".

    Unified Discussion - If you want a clash of scientific-based discussion with alternative views then choose this prefix. Be aware, however, that this may generated some heated and passionate discussion, but might also reveal some hidden gems from the disparate and eclectic viewpoints. The debate may get passionate but should still remain professional and respectful.

    Science-Based Discussion - The discussion should be based on scientific thought. The bar is raised a bit higher for these threads in regard to evidence, proof, credibility, etc. If alternative views are posted, but lack a scientific basis, they may be removed by a moderator.

    Alternative Views - Alternative, or non-mainstream views are welcome. The bar is lower for these threads in regard to providing proof, using scientific method, critical examination, etc. However, rational thought must still prevail. These threads explore the anomalies of science where the doorways to the TOE may lie. Posts that are overly critical may be removed by a moderator.

    I'll be converting all threads that have no prefix, to use the Unified prefix, unless it is obvious what prefix they should contain. Also, I believe your previous thread titles can be edited in case you would like to choose your own prefix.

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    I would like to stop having to defend myself constantly against the persistent inference that my life is and has been an imaginal lie, a made up thing, a not real thing…lots of expletives too numerous to mention. I hope nobody will think this is an unreasonable hope on my behalf.

    There are many systems in place at ToeQuest to which all posters may avail themselves. One system is the Thread Prefixes. When a thread has been commenced under a selected prefix, the behaviour of all posters to that thread will be moderated in accordance with that prefix. The poster who commences the thread has every right to maintain the direction of the thread without harassment from other posters.

    Main Entry: ha·rass
    Pronunciation: \hə-ˈras; ˈher-əs, ˈha-rəs\
    Function: transitive verb
    Etymology: French harasser, from Middle French, from harer to set a dog on, from Old French hare, interjection used to incite dogs, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German hier here — more at here
    Date: 1617
    1 a : exhaust, fatigue b (1) : to annoy persistently (2) : to create an unpleasant or hostile situation for especially by uninvited and unwelcome verbal or physical conduct
    2 : to worry and impede by repeated raids <harassed the enemy>

    In order to maintain the professional nature of the ToeQuest site, all posters both junior and senior, are required to please desist from any harassment of other posters. It is not appropriate for any poster tolerate persistent undue, uninvited, unwanted or unwarranted distraction from another poster. Furthermore, it is also not appropriate for any poster without official appointment as moderator to assume said role, but rather to draw attention of the moderators to any infringement of the ToeQuest Guidelines.

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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Good move, as that can cut most all cross-communication between science and non, when so desired. Now people can only request clarification of points made in either 'science' or 'alternate', but not counter any points.. Thanks for increasing moderation. Up to now, all types of threads were inputted to at will by members and mods in either way, that were not marked 'unified'.

    For me, I usually mark my threads as 'unified', so as to gain more perspective, while those that are more of just presentations, "science".

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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

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    For Mikal, and all other Wo/Men who are ''In Touch'' with their Inner Divine Being.
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    ''Today may there be peace within.
    May you trust that you are exactly where you are meant to be.
    May you not forget the infinite possibilities that are born of faith in yourself and others...
    May you use the gifts that you have received, and pass on the love that has been given to you.
    May you be content with yourself just the way you are..
    Let this knowledge settle into your bones, and allow your soul the freedom to sing, dance, praise and love.
    It is there for each and every one of us.''

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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Quote Originally Posted by labelwench View Post
    A point of clarification:

    The term 'lack of professionalism' refers not to spelling, editing or personal style, but rather to conduct unbecoming.
    Edited by mod: Please follow the thread owners theme !!

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    Last edited by Graybeard; 02-21-2010 at 04:06 PM.

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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    …alternative views that are not based on science.

    Courtesy note to all: Since science obviously has explanatory value, and "alternative" threads are not based on meeting the criteria of science, I will not be engaging any of those "alternate" threads, for it would be too much clutter to try to ignore science, pretend that it doesn't exist, etc., and also worry about accidentally lapsing into it; so, for me, never the twain shall meet.

    Fare thee well and wish you good luck, my friends.

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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Austin .... your above seems to me a form of spam. However, if it is your sign off signature then it can stay, but please refrain from posting it in every alternate thread !!

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    Re: Consciousness, Transcendence & Integration

    Quote Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com View Post
    …alternative views that are not based on science.

    Courtesy note to all: Since science obviously has explanatory value, and "alternative" threads are not based on meeting the criteria of science, I will not be engaging any of those "alternate" threads, for it would be too much clutter to try to ignore science, pretend that it doesn't exist, etc., and also worry about accidentally lapsing into it; so, for me, never the twain shall meet.

    Fare thee well and wish you good luck, my friends.
    Farewell to thee fair Austin.

    However, Never the twain have ever been separated my fair Austin.

    But go if you must for you have been called to a higher purpose perhaps.



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