r.p.bibra
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Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick
Absolutely spot on there my friend,do not take anybodies word for it,try it yourself? There are many mental disciplines that permit you to leave the physical body in full waking consciousness,where you can indeed see a blue light,and travel in the astral plane,and of course return to the physical body!Which of course you cannot do once you have physically died,because the "silver cord" "golden bowl"is severed on death.
regardsmichael.
r.p.bibra Quote
"when we are in the astral 'body', our physical body is completely in 'death-like' condition, but innerly we/our conscious is fully 'awake'. those who are adept in the 'state' you are refering to, are quite familiar with it. obe is an experience at the phsical plane;it has nothing to do with soul-realisation/consciousness/awareness!love®ards."
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Michael, the "silver cord" is the inner "Sound -Current" spoken of by all True Spiritual Masters physicists are calling it a vibrating string theory to put their own spin on it so it appears as though they discovered it.
r.p.bibra, yes o.b.e. are at the physical plane only - but they have everything to do with soul - realization / consciousness / awareness. It is only by rising above body consciousness that one realizes that he/she is a soul independent of the body and one then has conscious awareness that they are soul
We then - when we have risen above body consciousness - must travel inwards to the spiritual planes inside us. O.B.E. only takes us to the doorway - to experience spiritual planes we must enter that doorway in our out of body state. O.B.E. gives us realization that we are soul and "only then as soul independent of the physical body" can we see and enter the planes of consciousness that soul creates and experiences.
This is not possible until we know ourselves i.e. realize and experience that we are "soul."


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