[Infinite Consciousness]

r.p.bibra
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Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick
Absolutely spot on there my friend,do not take anybodies word for it,try it yourself? There are many mental disciplines that permit you to leave the physical body in full waking consciousness,where you can indeed see a blue light,and travel in the astral plane,and of course return to the physical body!Which of course you cannot do once you have physically died,because the "silver cord" "golden bowl"is severed on death.
regardsmichael.

r.p.bibra Quote
"when we are in the astral 'body', our physical body is completely in 'death-like' condition, but innerly we/our conscious is fully 'awake'. those who are adept in the 'state' you are refering to, are quite familiar with it. obe is an experience at the phsical plane;it has nothing to do with soul-realisation/consciousness/awareness!love&regards."
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Michael, the "silver cord" is the inner "Sound -Current" spoken of by all True Spiritual Masters physicists are calling it a vibrating string theory to put their own spin on it so it appears as though they discovered it.

r.p.bibra, yes o.b.e. are at the physical plane only - but they have everything to do with soul - realization / consciousness / awareness. It is only by rising above body consciousness that one realizes that he/she is a soul independent of the body and one then has conscious awareness that they are soul

We then - when we have risen above body consciousness - must travel inwards to the spiritual planes inside us. O.B.E. only takes us to the doorway - to experience spiritual planes we must enter that doorway in our out of body state. O.B.E. gives us realization that we are soul and "only then as soul independent of the physical body" can we see and enter the planes of consciousness that soul creates and experiences.

This is not possible until we know ourselves i.e. realize and experience that we are "soul."

[r.p.bibra]

There is individual (jeevi)-conscious, there is cosmic-consciousness; in between is Awareness, the interlinking factor---Observant!
Astral-body is merely the subtle reflection of the physical body, which in turn is the direct reflection of casual-body. All of these states of conscious expands the level of our conscious---that of the ‘gross-conscious’ (gross-mind). Even the cosmic-consciousness, in no way, connects us to ‘soul-realization’, as it relates only to the physical world. To attain to the state of ‘consciousness’ being referred to here, is in fact the state of ‘awareness’ mistakenly understood as conscious.
The most important missing link between consciousness and awareness of soul is bliss. It is the symbolic preamble to the “doorway” to the ocean of Ciitt (awareness), whose one of an attribute is bliss. The fragrance of bliss is an indication of the ‘presence/existence’ of the soul-principle. Ls

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by r.p.bibra

There is individual (jeevi)-conscious, there is cosmic-consciousness; in between is Awareness, the interlinking factor---Observant!
Astral-body is merely the subtle reflection of the physical body, which in turn is the direct reflection of casual-body. All of these states of conscious expands the level of our conscious---that of the ‘gross-conscious’ (gross-mind). Even the cosmic-consciousness, in no way, connects us to ‘soul-realization’, as it relates only to the physical world. To attain to the state of ‘consciousness’ being referred to here, is in fact the state of ‘awareness’ mistakenly understood as conscious.
The most important missing link between consciousness and awareness of soul is bliss. It is the symbolic preamble to the “doorway” to the ocean of Ciitt (awareness), whose one of an attribute is bliss. The fragrance of bliss is an indication of the ‘presence/existence’ of the soul-principle. Ls

Bliss is the aroma of a rose garden,just after rainfall,and the rising arc of the ascending
sun,whose warmth,excites the rose to give forth her scent!

regards michael

[socratus]

CLASSICAL GOD & QUANTUM GOD.
===============
Not one knows what God is.
Why?
Because not one physicists is even aware
that there was people who know what God is!
It is no wonder then that Physics does not know
the difference between the CLASSICAL GOD,
and the QUANTUM GOD.

[r.p.bibra]

the ls. is not a science man,but the following extract from a science journal might help:
Experiments Point to Global Connectivity
-----“There matters stood until the seventies. People had almost forgotten the
debate and only philosophers worried about it. But then one fine day, thanks
to remarkable advances in technology, many scientists, particularly in France,
began to actually conduct experiments that were once considered to be just
thought, or gedanken experiments. And what did they find? They found that
Bohr was indeed right. In other words, notwithstanding Einstein’s firm faith in
relativity coming to the rescue, quantum mechanics did work.
This then raised a deep philosophical question. Einstein said that if quantum
mechanics works then it means that signals can travel faster than light; but
that is not possible. However, scientists had now demonstrated that quantum
mechanics was working even in the EPR experiment. Did that imply
something was traveling faster than light; did this mean that relativity was out?
The pundits thought about it all and finally said, “Not quite. There is actually
no signal traveling and so there is no question of any violation of relativity.
What was happening in the French experiments was a strange and subtle
connectivity that linked everything on a global scale. If one ignored this global
connectivity and looked at things piecemeal, then one would have to invoke
signals traveling and all that; but if one kept subtle global connections in mind,
then there is really no contradiction with relativity.”
with love&regards.ls.