[melanie]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Thanks brother,the first step is the longest!Keep on walking,the way beckons us ever onward? regards michael.

Nice thread michael.

My idea is that the journey is the destination.

To realize we are this vast open space of ''pure primary awareness'' =oneness
out of which every-thing including the idea of a 'me' manifests, both one and the same reality.

Dreamer and dream eternal. = oneness/pure awareness.

'We' are unraveling layers and layers of culturing conditions and belief systems.
When we journey inward of our true nature, and we arrive at the very beginning again =oneness/pure awareness.

melanie.

[r.p.bibra]

My idea is that the journey is the destination.
There is no destination, as our journey is from self to Self, and both ( or ‘both’ are one!) are in ‘us’. Only we have to seek and realize that we are ‘divine’!
Dreamer and dream eternal. = oneness/pure awareness.

These are the states of the mind (within the mind), as dream and the dreamer, both are the creation of the mind (or cosmic-mind). The fundamental truth of mind (transient world) is that it is nothing but its own reaction, reflection and resounds.
Thus saith the Master:
“The cosmos does not exist. It is an illusion. It never is, has been or will be. The creation of the cosmos, the dissolution of the cosmos, these billions of individuals emerging and merging back, all this is but a dream. There is no separate individualised soul (Jivatma), how can there be billions of Jivatmas? There is only one Indivisible Complete Absolute. Like the one sun reflected as a billion suns in a billion lakes and other water bodies, the Jivatmas are but reflections of the One in the minds that it shines upon”
Unless we realize our core-reality, everything is theory, even the worlds of the masters and of sacred scriptures! Once we realize the duality of the world and divinity is gone. Even the superlative definitions and synonyms are gone. One word has only one meaning. There is no such thing as sisterly/motherly/brotherly/fatherly/friendly/wifely love. There is only one love and it is divine. Consciousness, super/supra-consciousness, transcendentalism, awareness, supreme-intelligence etc converge into one word i.e. Brahman (Aham Brahmanasmi=I am Brahman). To realize to this truth, we have to transcend the mind, which is possible if we go through the disciplined process of spiritual sadhna i.e. proper control over senses, adhering to human values.(spiritualism is banishment of animal qualities and observance of human values). This is the only truth. Realize and know. Those who have realized are blessed ones and they pray the same for all. Love & regards.ls.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by melanie Nice thread michael. My idea is that the journey is the destination. To realize we are this vast open space of ''pure primary awareness'' =oneness out of which every-thing including the idea of a 'me' manifests, both one and the same reality. Dreamer and dream eternal. = oneness/pure awareness. 'We' are unraveling layers and layers of culturing conditions and belief systems. When we journey inward of our true nature, and we arrive at the very beginning again =oneness/pure awareness. melanie.

Absolutely Melanie,I am,you are,were not?

regards michael.

[everymansmedium]

Hello Michael,
and everybody else that is partaking of this interesting thought:
I hope that none will mind that I show a bit of what I am thinking here.
I see a certain amount of traveling within INTERNITY, as you call it, an exercise that is good to get a grip on what is real that is forever. This is needed to prepare us for what is to follow this life. For after this life you will exist in this INTERNITY during any time that you are not here in this 3 dimensional space. However while you are here in this space, it is time to learn how a single dimensional existence as we, that ride the single rail of time, to learn of the 3 dimensional creator of all things in both existence mediums. From where we are we see Elsewhen as a place of dreams, though it be the only true reality for a being. We see this place that is but a divine dream as what is real today in Eden. When we pass to the true reality we then will see this place as it truly is, the divine dream that is to teach us to understand the 3 dimensional being that is our creator.
John

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by everymansmedium Hello Michael, and everybody else that is partaking of this interesting thought: I hope that none will mind that I show a bit of what I am thinking here. I see a certain amount of traveling within INTERNITY, as you call it, an exercise that is good to get a grip on what is real that is forever. This is needed to prepare us for what is to follow this life. For after this life you will exist in this INTERNITY during any time that you are not here in this 3 dimensional space. However while you are here in this space, it is time to learn how a single dimensional existence as we, that ride the single rail of time, to learn of the 3 dimensional creator of all things in both existence mediums. From where we are we see Elsewhen as a place of dreams, though it be the only true reality for a being. We see this place that is but a divine dream as what is real today in Eden. When we pass to the true reality we then will see this place as it truly is, the divine dream that is to teach us to understand the 3 dimensional being that is our creator. John

Welcome John aboard this mule train to home,or Eden as you called it,we have indeed
to realize this "dream" and wake up and smell the roses,or in my case the coffee!

regards michael.

[r.p.bibra]

It is the body (gross conscious) which houses the mind, which while in conscious state enjoys all the fruits of the senses, then while body is resting (asleep) it enjoys the reflections of the mind, as mind never ‘sleeps’. It the same mind, which when transcends its limits, it becomes conscious (merges) of the cosmic-consciousness. The advanced ascetics who are adept in meditation, come to realize that in Samadh state (deep meditation) one is aware of the phenomenal world, while simultaneously being one with the ‘divine. Exactly like the body enjoying simultaneously the dreams (while the body is at rest) and day-dreaming also. In nutshell it is the body which is embodied with both states of conscious and cosmic-consciousness. Nothing super-natural, only natural states of the body! Only we have to realize its deeper potentialities. Love & regards.ls

[mkirkpatrick]

Thanks Ls,we need to realize our inner potentuality,for there is zero to realize without!


regards michael.

[Profpat]

Actually Michael isn't internals cousin external and not eternal. Therefore it would be internity and externity.

Best,

Pat

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Profpat Actually Michael isn't internals cousin external and not eternal. Therefore it would be internity and externity. Best, Pat

Trust you to notice my deliberate mistake,well done??



regards michael.