Hawking & Mlodinow: No Theory of Everything?

[Drifter]

[QUOTE=Rybo;150913]

Drifer, glad to see you making a conscious effort to grasp at least one of the simple ideas I've posted here......you do on rare occasion come through with some good stuff.

So first of all Drift ole buddy, we must understand that, experience --ergo physical--- precedes thought and thoughts are related to consciousness.

So the finite physical experience ---ex a brain harvesting incoming info---- precedes any thougths about the incoming information.

No physical and in this specific example, no brain, then no thoughts ergo no access to complex MIND.

Simple conscious is same but at much more simple scales of existence. Virus being most simple biloogical-like organism, and all other less complex non-biologicals being a less simple kind of consciousness.

So complex consciousness is physical accessing of the metaphysical MIND aka eternal cosmic laws/principles.



Ok, lets be clear here Drift ole buddy. The minimal conciousness is the ultra-micro, quasi-physical, gravitational spacetime fabric.

As to the idea/concept of a "hole", we first need to understand there is two primary kinds of non-occupied space aka your "hole" or void or opening etc....

1) the true non-occupied space that is truly void of eing occupied. This true non-ocupied space only exists beyond the finite physical Universe and beyond the fintie quasi-physical gravitational spacetime Universe.

2) the superficial non-occupied "hole" we call the empty lot between to houses, where there is no house yet built. That "hole" / empty space or lot, is filled with air molecules that are invisible to our eyes.

I do not believe there are true non-occupied "holes" spaces in the gravitational spacetiime fabric. I do believe, that, the fabric forms ultra-micro tubes, and these tubes intermingle and seeming combine/tangent and overlap to form a greater gometric shapes like a 3D pretsel.

Between the this pretsels tubes, are true non-occupied space, but that true, non-occupied space is still outside of, ergo beyond the tubes tho existent between the tubes.

So drift, when you say there is a hole in the fabric, I think that any hole in the fabric of gravitational spacetiime, is superifical i.e. that hole has something in it, even tho, like gravity itsself, we do not and cannot instrumetnatlly observe/detect it.

So Drifter ole buddy, do you understand any of the above I've stated? Please do not send me long non-related posts to Gambini or Govini,Tony Bologny etc........

Try and focus on these simple, top of the hierarchy concepts of our one and only one "U"niverse-{ top of heirarchy ergo most inclusive concept aka God(es), or Great Momma, or Great Spirit.

Universe-( beyond U )..{ outside of finite Universe }...

Universe-( U )..{ inclusive of any universe we still do not observe }

universe-( local universe we observe )

Rybo

When Awareness/Father knows Sensation/Mother, Consciousness/Son-Sun arises (is borne)
Finite physical experience is 'relative awareness' in which 'relative consciousness' as a son does in relation to his father arises.
Relative or finite awareness is the offspring or Son of/to Cosmic Consciousness 'The Father' or progenetor Divine Intelligence of the cosmos/race? Once you can see clearly rybo, from this new perspective, you will see that all my previous post were/are relevant.

[Rybo]

[QUOTE=Drifter;150915]

When Awareness/Father knows Sensation/Mother, Consciousness/Son-Sun arises (is borne)
Finite physical experience is 'relative awareness' in which 'relative consciousness' as a son does in relation to his father arises.
Relative or finite awareness is the offspring or Son of/to Cosmic Consciousness 'The Father' or progenetor Divine Intelligence of the cosmos/race? Once you can see clearly rybo, from this new perspective, you will see that all my previous post were/are relevant.

Drifter, here you go again doing similar nonsense.

I replied to and addressed specifically the statments you made to me.

You come back not one single reference to anything stated, and certainly you spent little to no time attempting to comprehend any of it.

You see, you rarely want to engage in disscussion...You just want to throw irrelevant nonsense at others.

Have a little more courage and backbone Drifter....occasionally you do attempt to have a a real, and considerate conversation, then fall right back into irrelevant nonsense.

I think you have the intellectual ability but afraid to try and use it too much....

I'm sorry if appeaer crude or rude, when I'm call'em as I see'em. Usually it is easy enough to resolve conflicts with a I'm sorry etc type apologizes, so, please go back and and address my comments as stated.

If I appaer to be in error then please point out where. Save the irrelevant nonsense for your ending or practice trying to weave irrelevant concepts into yuur reply dude.

This takes time but you will have more time if you back off your constant spreading of irrelvant nonsense in every other one of your posts.....imho

RYbo

[Drifter]

Is Consciousness...
1. Non-occupied energetic space/no-motion
or
2. Occupied, energetic space/motion

The hole in the fabric is occupied by the object passing through it, when the object has passed through the hole becomes part of the whole again. Consciousness-a semi-permeable membrane/fabric.

Did you answer this "IS" question?

"I", this poster (this relative -consciousness), is Curious?



Do you have ADDHD?

[Rybo]

Did you answer this "IS" question?
"I", this poster (this relative -consciousness), is Curious?

Do you have ADDHD?

Huh? What "IS" question? I gave a long and sincere reply to you that addressed your comments as stated.

You offer irrelevant nonsense 98% of the time to pretty much anything I've stated and I presume you do the same with most others.

If there is a question above I have no idea what it is and you need to go back to the long reply I gave that addressed your comments....,.if I'm in error somewhere then take that reply and address it.

You offer nothing but more irrelevant nonsense...get your head on track Drifter and leave Gambini or is it Gamboni where he belongs....

No offense intended here Drift oel buddy.....just trying to get keep you on relevant tracks of thougth and not out there in Gambini land......

Rybo

[Drifter]

Huh? What "IS" question? I gave a long and sincere reply to you that addressed your comments as stated.

You offer irrelevant nonsense 98% of the time to pretty much anything I've stated and I presume you do the same with most others.

If there is a question above I have no idea what it is and you need to go back to the long reply I gave that addressed your comments....,.if I'm in error somewhere then take that reply and address it.

You offer nothing but more irrelevant nonsense...get your head on track Drifter and leave Gambini or is it Gamboni where he belongs....

No offense intended here Drift oel buddy.....just trying to get keep you on relevant tracks of thougth and not out there in Gambini land......

Rybo

No offence but, are you completly daft!? IS CONSCIOUSNESS IN OR OUT, THE MIND ARISES IN THAT CONSCIOUsNESS as you, ergo, rather your ego.
That is bondage.

[Drifter]

[QUOTE=Rybo;150780]

Drift, gravitational spacetime is fabric of reality. "matrix of mind" has no meaning ergo it appears senseless to me. Maybe you have some idea of what it is you think it is your meaning is.



Within what? This makes no sense with some definition of what it is you think meaning is.

"World without" also has no meaning with out some definition by you.

There are nine or so worlds in our solar system. You appear to be confused.

You need to clarify your thoughts and make clear what it is you think your trying to say.

Rybo

Mind is not senseless. And that's the poblem. It is seeing, hearing, smelling, touching, tasteing, thinking.
"Matrix of mind" is all these "things". ergo every thing. as opposed to no objective or uncaused cause

You're trying to be cute(coy)? playing footsies?

Your looking at the doughnut brother. And it a filled donut.

[Drifter]

So

No

TOE

Rybo, Speaking frankly dude, "You" may never get it.

[Drifter]

[QUOTE=Rybo;150913]

Drifer, glad to see you making a conscious effort to grasp at least one of the simple ideas I've posted here......you do on rare occasion come through with some good stuff.

So first of all Drift ole buddy, we must understand that, experience --ergo physical--- precedes thought and thoughts are related to consciousness.

So the finite physical experience ---ex a brain harvesting incoming info---- precedes any thougths about the incoming information.

No physical and in this specific example, no brain, then no thoughts ergo no access to complex MIND.

Simple conscious is same but at much more simple scales of existence. Virus being most simple biloogical-like organism, and all other less complex non-biologicals being a less simple kind of consciousness.

So complex consciousness is physical accessing of the metaphysical MIND aka eternal cosmic laws/principles.



Ok, lets be clear here Drift ole buddy. The minimal conciousness is the ultra-micro, quasi-physical, gravitational spacetime fabric.

As to the idea/concept of a "hole", we first need to understand there is two primary kinds of non-occupied space aka your "hole" or void or opening etc....

1) the true non-occupied space that is truly void of eing occupied. This true non-ocupied space only exists beyond the finite physical Universe and beyond the fintie quasi-physical gravitational spacetime Universe.

2) the superficial non-occupied "hole" we call the empty lot between to houses, where there is no house yet built. That "hole" / empty space or lot, is filled with air molecules that are invisible to our eyes.

I do not believe there are true non-occupied "holes" spaces in the gravitational spacetiime fabric. I do believe, that, the fabric forms ultra-micro tubes, and these tubes intermingle and seeming combine/tangent and overlap to form a greater gometric shapes like a 3D pretsel.

Between the this pretsels tubes, are true non-occupied space, but that true, non-occupied space is still outside of, ergo beyond the tubes tho existent between the tubes.

So drift, when you say there is a hole in the fabric, I think that any hole in the fabric of gravitational spacetiime, is superifical i.e. that hole has something in it, even tho, like gravity itsself, we do not and cannot instrumetnatlly observe/detect it.

So Drifter ole buddy, do you understand any of the above I've stated? Please do not send me long non-related posts to Gambini or Govini,Tony Bologny etc........

Try and focus on these simple, top of the hierarchy concepts of our one and only one "U"niverse-{ top of heirarchy ergo most inclusive concept aka God(es), or Great Momma, or Great Spirit.

Universe-( beyond U )..{ outside of finite Universe }...

Universe-( U )..{ inclusive of any universe we still do not observe }

universe-( local universe we observe )

Rybo

http://www.eastrovedica.com/html/fourfold_yoga2.htm

[Rybo]

No offence but, are you completly daft!? IS CONSCIOUSNESS IN OR OUT, THE MIND ARISES IN THAT CONSCIOUsNESS as you, ergo, rather your ego.
That is bondage.

I anwswered that quesion once already. It is physical and you did not read it.....just as stated before, you do not comprehend what I read cause you do not even read it.

Then you send reply with irrelevant nonsense and repeately tell me I didn't answer you question...

Your acting like a lazy irresponsible lame duck horse Drifiter...have a little more integrityu and some backbond dude....stop with all your irrelevant Gambini or is Gamboni nonsense and address mine and others comments as stated......

Rybo

[spacedout]

To really comprehend the universe we must have physical models that come from the understanding of mathematical formulas. The formula E = mc^2 means that c number of steps must be taken for every step forward. The square means that a row is s steps = s number of rows. This means that s could be thousands of side steps for every on step forward to give velocity c. The value c is 1/s, this means that E = m(1/s)^2; this means a hidden variable in Einstein's energy equation.

If each a row of the ccwp is s and all the steps of the square = s^2 all the energy is in one direction. It seems the maximum velocity of s is thousands of times faster than the speed of light. The total energy would be s^2(s^2) = s^4.

[dipayankar]

With the doubts being cast on the Special Theory of Relativity, it seems this entire episode on Theory of Everything might take a right angle turn. C might not me the constant that we were expecting it to be.

To really comprehend the universe we must have physical models that come from the understanding of mathematical formulas. The formula E = mc^2 means that c number of steps must be taken for every step forward. The square means that a row is s steps = s number of rows. This means that s could be thousands of side steps for every on step forward to give velocity c. The value c is 1/s, this means that E = m(1/s)^2; this means a hidden variable in Einstein's energy equation.

If each a row of the ccwp is s and all the steps of the square = s^2 all the energy is in one direction. It seems the maximum velocity of s is thousands of times faster than the speed of light. The total energy would be s^2(s^2) = s^4.

[spacedout]

The EPR experiment with the disintegration of a particle radiates horizontal waves in one direction and parallel waves in the other direction. An analyzer A picks up the horizontal waves while the analyzer B picks up vertical waves.

When analyzer A picks up a horizontal wave the other analyzer B picks up a vertical wave. Keeping analyzer A in position and analyzer B is rotated the chance for coordination is found and at 45-degrees it is a cosine value not a cosine^2 value---1/2^2 not 1/2 as expected.

In step theory every movement is in quantum xyz steps. X projections to the diagonal c cut the c^2 area into x and y projections. The opening is the x distance and when this is put in the c^2 area the vertical x distance is less than c --- x/c or a cosine function as it should be

[spacedout]

The longer the distance s the more time is taken to cross it to give the value of altered c. E = mc^2 is telling a story the speed of light is slow.

[spacedout]

The greater the number of steps across s in the formula E = m(1/s^2) the time taken to cross with more steps the slower the photon will travel.

[spacedout]

Steps are the smallest and fastest thing in the universe and represent distance, time and energy just a movement one after another along a looped time-line. Some scientist belive that time doesn't exist but why is this so why couldn't distance be nonexistant, or even energy at the basic level of a step? I don't know what a step is but it relocates constantly generating a linear path . The path then is grouped xyz and choose one out of the time-line to make a secondary identity path.

[spacedout]

If instead of one step forward for s side steps there would be s steps forward and s could be thousands of steps {thousands of steps faster than the speed of light}. The speed of light is slow. Think of how fast steps would have to be to follow a loop that is balled into our universe and every cycle one point on the s sidesteps to make the speed of light. We don't understand the universe so don't be overwhelmed by my statements. A field particle that makes a Planck particle {photon} will have crossed chains with s steps in it to give the speed of light and is s is multiplied to each s^2 number of points in the field the energy E = c^3 I think I made a mistake before stating that it is E = c^4.

[spacedout]

A looped time-line consists of (+ or -) steps in x,y,z directions.
For example:

0---1---2
5--------3
6---5---4

Note that the next cycle 1 can be in the 0 spot or below the 1; in other words there are two options to recycle the looped time-line. All the next steps must be one step relocation from the past ing the cycle.