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    Big Bangs - A theory or a misconception


    I read and drowned in my ideas after reading the recent theory given by Neil Turok.I thought, what shortcomings it has or it will pose better answers for today's mysteries and thus I got to a conclusion after 7 days of research .How it can effect these objects and phenomenon.

    Acc. to this concept ,several big bangs ,I will call it MBB happened in the universe, but they can't happen simultaneously ,some of them might might have banged after and before 13.7 bill. limit,thus Mean time of explosions can be taken as 13.7 bill.yrs.


    Expansion rate-
    A plump solitary big bang can cause everlasting expansion that the MBB can't do. Since matter in universe in both the concepts is the same therefore we can say MBB might not have produced much expansion rate many expansions of different big bangs might have collided with one another further deteriorating acceleration.



    Gamma Ray Bursts-
    Now one big bang have much larger space for expansion in comparison with little ones .Now GRB's are known to be caused by primordial black holes i.e. Hypernovae in primordial nebulae. Now the question rises that which of these theories favour the existence of GRB's.
    Now a solitary one have more mass ,more matter ,more speed thus you can't get superdense nebulae in one sight .But MBB accounts for less mass ,less speed and there it poses a possibility of such supermassive bodies.


    Supermassive objects-
    Clumps of hundred of galaxies formed by gravitational pull and collisions between objects of different big bangs will further deteriorate the a much slower expansion rate.It can might also solve the mystery of bodies like Quasars giving it a totally new concept. Quite different from conventional ideas and I think this case is having a very little probability.


    Shape of Galaxies-
    Abundance of elliptical and spiral galaxies shows that these beautiful creations can't be made by random explosions.Moreover forces of Dark matter will also play a major role (later explained).Collisions will be rapid thus having a proper shape is of less probablity than being disintegrated into smaller pieces or forming larger clumps of irregular shape.


    Size of Galaxies-
    Size of galaxies can also pose to be strong favourer as MBB should have a large number of supermassive bodies (explained above).As the forces of decceleration,gravitation and rapid collisions will deteriorate expansion and help the clumps to form into big galaxies ,but you decide whether our universe is having abundancy of big galaxies or small galaxies.


    Shape of the Universe-
    The density is more than the critical density in such a case .Thus the shape of universe would be like given by David gow77 in his article of case having density more than critical density.That space would be courled up so differently i hope u understand.


    Light Distortion--
    The distortion or space time warp is more in case of MBB .Thus distortion is to such an extent that we aren't able to see objects beyond 12 bill. Light yrs., but we are able to see those objects with some less distortion and thus here is a shortcoming of this concept and can form a good "protester".


    Dark Matter-
    The proportion of dark matter is much more in case of MBB due to abundance of massive objects. Thus in such types of universe Dark Matter (present in halo around galaxies) will be dominant force in the universe to such an extent that each galaxy will develop its black hole as soon as it can.


    So.that's all i am sorry that i can't send to you the graphics and illustrations, there was an operating problem.It took me 6 days to analyze this with mathematical calculations.I hope you like it.
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    Re: Big Bangs

    The ideas of the big bang shouldn't be the basis of our research for the theory of every thing.I think what we need is one equation to prove others,hence one truth explains others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bfancis View Post
    The ideas of the big bang shouldn't be the basis of our research for the theory of every thing.I think what we need is one equation to prove others,hence one truth explains others.
    I am not that much related with TOE as it is not a part of classic astrophysics and cosmology ,thus my articles aren't made keeping in view of TOE. Till there is no clear concept of gravitation, dark energy and Multiple branes and the unification made, I will stick to the classic one and will have my research based only on it.
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    Re: Big Bangs

    i'm a under graduate student u r superior no doubt but still i dare to ask u why have u not mentioned Singularity- which Big bang considered the ultimate starting point of universe?
    Only two things are infinite, one is the universe and other is human's stupidity. I doubt the former.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    i'm a under graduate student u r superior no doubt but still i dare to ask u why have u not mentioned Singularity- which Big bang considered the ultimate starting point of universe?
    Well,i just wanted to focus at the consequences and effects of million big bangs and not on the singularity and raise a flock of questions which normally the singularity word raises.I wanted ur views on what i have derived i.e. effect of MBB on structure and shape,existence of supermassive bodies etc.
    THis is a pure fantasy i have made,i know! but sometimes form these unrealistic discussions we can get brilliant results regarding other things involved in hat discussion.
    for example if we find million number too big we can end up with a definite number -> two,four or even five or sixty.
    Thus i expect some replies on such subjects and not those humble,right shortcomings u find in my article.Yes,i accept they are and will be rioght but please try to think my way,u will start getting new questions.
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    Re: Big Bangs

    It seems to me that before we can debate what caused the universe, we should know more about the fundamental physical substance the it’s made of.
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    Smile Re: Big Bangs

    Do you personally think there is a link and a corrospondence between dark matter
    and black holes?

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    Re: Big Bangs

    The more ur galaxy is stable i.e. elliptical or barred-spiral or spiral.....the more are ur chances of getting black hole in it.....and stability of galaxies in turn depends on availaibility of dark matter.....that's why i say that ....
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    Re: Big Bangs

    i do belive that there is a link betn dark matter and black holes after all the matter that falls in a black hole where does it goes? we dont know whether it comes out of the black hole after a particular period of time if it doesnt then what exactly happens to such a huge amount of matter after it falls into singularity?
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    The big bangs we are familiar with are just things that where formulated as arequest for the theory of everything, even a true physicists will not spend much time on big bangs but will look for the idea on how such a phenomenon was posed. Remember that imaginations are what we create to formulate what wasn't there. If the theory of everything is there why is it that we still experience expansions in ours universe (expanding universe) for more studies
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