[mkirkpatrick]

I would like to start this thread off with a proposal. I propose that all is fire, and that it expressess it's self like this; Air-fludic-fire, water-liquid-fire, earth-solid-fire.A triplicity of fire that is universal in its operation. Can we feel the heat!
What do you think?

kind regards michael.

[sruthisupriya]

Then, what are living beings? Another form of fire, perhaps? Ah, that is why we talk about the 'burning fire inside'.

[mkirkpatrick]

The teachings of the ageless wisdom say that all is fire.another word for light,we are made of light(fire)in solid form,as is all phenomenal matter,the more
stimulus you apply(heat)the more the object will radiate,now the mind lensed
through form can produce heat,some monks in the Tibet and area can dryout
wet blankets on their naked bodies as part of their deep meditation process
which includes imagining a fire within a furness of intense heat,this discipline
enables them to do,what would kill you or I.There is a fire within us all,we can access this by focus and mental discipline.Much like the suns rays focussed
through a magnifying glass,which will start a fire,so the mind is the same,the Principle is the same!!!focused intention will produce heat and flame.The mind
is a Lens and can focus like a prism?


kind regards michael.

[sruthisupriya]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick

some monks in the Tibet and area can dryout
wet blankets on their naked bodies as part of their deep meditation process
which includes imagining a fire within a furness of intense heat.

Speaking philosophically, you are right. Wonderfully right. But, fire has two products-heat and light. How is it that one product is masked completely, while the other manages to escape? And, to start a fire you need some kind of a reaction. So basically, fire needs to be initiated, while according to you fire initiates all. Which is true?

[michellemfry]

Is that fire fusion? The combining of smaller nuclei to form larger ones. Fusion provides the energy source for all the stars in the universe. It occurs with the release of energy. To a star, it is everything.

[baudrunner]

The four states of matter are gas, liquid, solid, and plasma. Fusion produces plasma, the fourth state of matter. Oxygen is the catalyst in the exothermic reaction that produces fire and among its byproducts carbon dioxide (oxygen is not consumed in fire).

The structure of the sun is such that it has an iron mantle surrounded by a sea of plasma. What occurs inside is the fusion of hydrogen nuclei into helium nucei, four of hydrogen to produce one of helium. In a hydrogen bomb, a deuterium ion and a tritium ion, the positive isotopes of the heavy isotope of hydrogen, undergo fusion to form a helium nucleus and a neutron. The ideal fusion of two hydrogen atoms plus two neutrons to form one helium atom can not be reproduced. Find out the latest of what we know about the sun at this very hot site here...

http://www.thesurfaceofthesun.com

Is fire plasma? Well, yes. So are electric arcs. Plasma has different densities that can make them appear to fall into different classes.

[mkirkpatrick]

Balance and poise,an equilibrium of mind, body and soul,when this is achieved
then the fires of creation will percolate in a flameful harmony.the elements of
air,fludic fire,water,liquid fire,earth,solid fire,will burn steadily and the man will
become transformed from within.His whole form will be irradiated,and will be
"filled" with much (finer) atoms,as the dross is burnt away.Is this some fanciful idea,maybe fantasy! science-fiction,or even lunacy! some will no doubt think so.But these actions are real,they do happen,and have happened.If you are willing to walk the walk,so to speak,you can prove this to be so,just practise the principles of meditation,harmlessness,in thought word and deed,detachment,and ego deflation at depth,acceptance of what
Is,and do this,with all your mind,body,and soul.for say 20 to 30 years!Then you will see for your self.That all the above is in fact true,and that it all operates within natural law.

kind regards michael.

[Mohan.C]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick

Balance and poise,an equilibrium of mind, body and soul,when this is achieved
then the fires of creation will percolate in a flameful harmony.the elements of
air,fludic fire,water,liquid fire,earth,solid fire,will burn steadily and the man will
become transformed from within.His whole form will be irradiated,and will be
"filled" with much (finer) atoms,as the dross is burnt away.Is this some fanciful idea,maybe fantasy! science-fiction,or even lunacy! some will no doubt think so.But these actions are real,they do happen,and have happened.If you are willing to walk the walk,so to speak,you can prove this to be so,just practise the principles of meditation,harmlessness,in thought word and deed,detachment,and ego deflation at depth,acceptance of what
Is,and do this,with all your mind,body,and soul.for say 20 to 30 years!Then you will see for your self.That all the above is in fact true,and that it all operates within natural law.

kind regards michael.

I am not yet 20 or 30. But i can tell you its not lunacy but fact which like all facts people find it difficult to accept. But i can't hide my surprise of the fact that where in the world did you get these facts. Not to say I knew this facts.

[mkirkpatrick]

You seem hungry Mohan?These "facts" that I mention,and yes they are facts to me,to others,it is fantasy,bull...t,lunacy,fanciful notions of absurdity! The
world is full of mockers and scoffers,but such is life.I have gathered these ideas from all over this world,much indeed from your own land,a land with a
great depth of spirituality,the noble teachings of the Bhagavad Gita,It is inte-
resting that there is no Sanskrit word that is equivalent to the word "religion".
Instead Hinduism sees itself as an approach to understanding our place in the
universe."we all need to find our own way Home,to the God within us.I have
also learned much from the orient,from Europe,and from our brothers the north American Indians,who have a profound wisdom,that is in grave danger
of being lost.The living fires of creation,burn away the dross,to reveal that
"jewel" that is within,a gem that is liquid fire.To look within its Flame,one has
to "die" of self?

kind regards michael.

[michellemfry]

Hey, Michael, I need a light ...Yes, I really do...