[mkirkpatrick]

In 1982 at the university of Paris,a research team led by physicist,Alain Aspect,performed what may turn out to be one of the most important experiments of the 20th century.Aspect and his team discovered that under
certain circumstances subatomic patricles such as electrons are able to
instantaneously communicate with each other,regardless of the distance separting them.It did not matter whether they are 10feet or 10 billion miles apart.Somehow each particle always seems to know what the other is doing?
University of London physicist David Bohm,believes that Aspects findings imply that Objective reality does not Exist,that despite its "apparent" solidity
the universe is at heart a phantasm,a gigantic and splendly detailed hologram
This insight suggested to Bohm another way of understanding Aspects discovery.He thought the reason subatomic particles are able to remain in contact with one another regardless of the distance seperating them is not because they are sending some sort of mysterious signal back and forth,but because their separteness is an illusion!At some deeper level of reality such particles are not individual entities,but are actually extensions of the same funamental Something!!!
any thoughts on this?
regardsmichael.

[AntonioLao]

objective reality is possible as long as individual time axes exist independently of each other. But when their angular displacements are all zero then there is only one subjective reality.

[mkirkpatrick]

The holographic paradigm also has implications for so-called hard sciences like biology.Keith Floyd,a psychologist at Virginia Intermont college,has pointed out that ifthe concretenness of reality is but a holographic illusion,it
wuld no longer be true to say the brain produces consciuosness,rather,it is
consciousness that creates the appearance of the brain!!!
As well as the body and everything else around us we interpret as physical.


kind regards michael.

[dleviwing]

During the 1980's this experiment was proven to be inconclusive. Personally I find the data quite prone to subjective interpretation.

[AntonioLao]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bohm David Bohm Believed hidden variables of quantum reality which is a reality of interdependence between levels of existence. However, when we start to describe these levels of existence we get lost in the complexity of human-scaled images and dimensional analyses and the shortcoming of the use of languages whether formalized syntactic or mathematical.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bohm David Bohm Believed hidden variables of quantum reality which is a reality of interdependence between levels of existence. However, when we start to describe these levels of existence we get lost in the complexity of human-scaled images and dimensional analyses and the shortcoming of the use of languages whether formalized syntactic or mathematical.

That is so
right,Antonio,however when it is boiled down into simple wording does it not
spell out,that behind all "objective reality" lies mind?


kind regards michael.

[dleviwing]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao David Bohm Believed hidden variables of quantum reality which is a reality of interdependence between levels of existence.

This only indicates he did not know what he was talking about. There is no such thing as independent levels of existence, there is only the inability to understand physical reality and the unwillingness for someone to state they do not know all the answers.

[harmonygirl]

thanks for the reference to the Wikipedia site. I hadn't run across Bohm but I have read some Krishnamurti. I find it remarkable that they collaborated on a book (which I definitely need to read!). It seems from the brief into to his work that the site provided, that he was on the right track. I'm not sure about levels of existence. I guess I need to read him.

[baudrunner]

Again, the lack of a clear understanding of the nature of reality leads inexorably to the unnecessary complication of what of course turn out to be false interpretations. There is actually nothing esoteric about the right ones. The quantification of the results of the experiments were based on the presumed behaviour of the photonic backdrop, which because it represents nothing therefore exists everywhere at the same time, a convenient compromise for us. Photon entanglement demonstrates this. There is genuine potential for application in the area of communications, where it may some day be possible to communicate with a Mars base instantaneously, for example. Until a proper understanding of what is actually going on is achieved, then I suppose the philosophers and gurus of esoterics and metaphysics have their work cut out for them as authors, misdirecting and misleading their readers thorugh the misconstruence of the truth., as they have been doing forever anyway.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by dleviwing During the 1980's this experiment was proven to be inconclusive. Personally I find the data quite prone to subjective interpretation.

You are probally right there Dave,but dont you think
that it does go a long way into explaining many anomalities,that have up to now baffled them!If you accept it as a theory that is.


kind regards michael.