The Shape of the Universe

[baudrunner]

"Space is not a concept, but a form of intuition." H.

Fascinating. I have never read that but I have no doubt that he said it. It, in and of itself, is intuitive. But in order to appreciate that you must believe what I have been saying.

"We cannot imagine that there should be no space, although we can imagine that there should be nothing in space." H.

I guess my powers of imagination exceed his, because I can imagine no space. Of course, I have been practising.

"Insistence on the postulate of complete logical classification would make sceince impossible." H.

That statement is psychologically revealling - call it a Freudian slip. He might be saying that if he can't come up with the TOE than nobody else can. I reason that because he said that insistence on it would make science impossible. I encourage enthusiasm. On the other hand, he might be suggesting that when we have it all figured out, than there would be no reason to be going to school to learn how.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Fascinating. I have never read that but I have no doubt that he said it. It, in and of itself, is intuitive. But in order to appreciate that you must believe what I have been saying.


I guess my powers of imagination exceed his, because I can imagine no space. Of course, I have been practising.


That statement is psychologically revealling - call it a Freudian slip. He might be saying that if he can't come up with the TOE than nobody else can. I reason that because he said that insistence on it would make science impossible. I encourage enthusiasm. On the other hand, he might be suggesting that when we have it all figured out, than there would be no reason to be going to school to learn how.

Baud, he didn't say we cannot imagine no space. He said; "We cannot imagine that there should be no space, although we can imagine that there should be nothing in space." H. ...Pay attention___stop reading what you want to hear___it keeps out the science fiction of you existing in non-space.

As to his last quote, he was referring to the uncertainty principle, and quantum mechanics, of which, complete logical classification must be suspended to comprehend the disappearance and re-appearance of the electron between orbit jumps. At that time and still, except what HBD said in his recent post, complete logical classification had to be suspended about sub-quantum uncertainties to accept quantum certainty.

regards

[baudrunner]

What I said he said was what he meant. I know that because I am intuitive in my understanding of famous figures in Physics past. The summary of his understanding of the fundamental nature of reality is that he didn't, and he as much as admits it over and over again. That is one reason that his uncertainty principle has gained such noteriety. The public take on it is no different than the weird obsession ordinary people have with the private lives of strangers who act in movies and the bizzare respect that people afford them.

If you only knew.

[mkirkpatrick]

Formless is the shape of all,what shape is love?What shape is energy?The
shape of the universe is that it has none,it is formlessness!



kind regards michael.

[Guille]

Formless is the shape of all,what shape is love?What shape is energy?The
shape of the universe is that it has none,it is formlessness!



kind regards michael.

This is a very interesting position. In the case, the definition of universe wouldn't be a 'thing' really, but more a property of things, preciselly speaking, the property of things to be.

[baudrunner]

The Universe is physical in nature, and regardless of the fact that the presence of the energy within it has distorted its form with respect to space-time I think we can assume that the ever expanding acellerating periphery is no doubt spherical since there is nothing to resist the expansion and the acellerating component gives it the purity of that spherical form.

[mkirkpatrick]

This is a very interesting position. In the case, the definition of universe wouldn't be a 'thing' really, but more a property of things, preciselly speaking, the property of things to be.

Thats
exactly right my amigo,if you were closer I would buy you 5 litres of coke
and treat you to a crab salad?I shall be in Madrid in three weeks time,
on a brief change over of aircraft on route to Costa Rica,would you be able to gain access to the transit lounge there?If you could we would be able to say hello,and you could then buy me 2 litres of coke for myflight!


kind regards michael.

[Guille]

Thats
exactly right my amigo,if you were closer I would buy you 5 litres of coke
and treat you to a crab salad?I shall be in Madrid in three weeks time,
on a brief change over of aircraft on route to Costa Rica,would you be able to gain access to the transit lounge there?If you could we would be able to say hello,and you could then buy me 2 litres of coke for myflight!


kind regards michael.

5-2 so I woul dend up having a net profit of 3 litres, and you -3 (lol). I won't be aloud to the transit lounge, cause it's not allowed in Barajas (the airport of Madrid). Unless maybe if I asked for a permission, but I doubt they give any at all...

If one day stayed in Madrid, then we could meet.

[David Maes]

I think the universe is flat.

[Profpat]

So do I David.