[socratus]

Evolution.
The most simple design, which was created by the God, is atom of hydrogen.
The most complex design, which was created by the God, is the Man.
The Man is alive essence.
Animals, bird, fish are alive essences.
And an atom?
And atom is also alive design.
The atom of hydrogen lives 12 minutes.
And someone a long time ago has already said, that if
to give suffices time to atom of hydrogen, he will turn into Man.
Therefore, the one, who creates a general picture of Life,
must consider development of evolution of Life from atom up to the Man.
* * *
Once upon a time, in the beginning, there was one "single point " accidentally.
Then it has caught a cold accidentally and has blown up: Big Bang " has taken place.
It was the reason of accidental creation of some hundreds
(thousands) kinds of elementary particles and their girlfriends - antiparticles.
Then stars were formed accidentally.
Then the Planet the Earth was formed accidentally.
Then atom of hydrogen was accidentally formed.
Then complex atom was accidentally formed.
Then was accidentally formed vegetative and fauna.
Then the man was created accidentally.
And this man can accidentally think logically.
But of course, unfortunately, not always.
* * *
What was one "single point " surrounded with?
EMPTINESS- NOTHING….!!!
Ok!
But why does everyone speak about EMPTINESS- NOTHING
In common phrases rather than in specific, concrete terms?
I wonder why nobody has written down this EMPTINESS- NOTHING
in the form of a physical formula ? You see, every schoolboy knows that
is possible to express the EMPTINESS- NOTHING condition
by the formula T=0K.
From only this simple physical parameter I create a general picture of Genesis.

[Uncommon man]

Whats all the stuff up top.
Thats a lot of accidents, but i was told accidents don't happen their part of coarse and effect you don't concentrate you crash, god decides to get creative along came us.

[Guille]

Socratus,

Before of talking about god does, has done, or will do, please proof that god can do at all (exist).

[harmonygirl]

Guille,
explain the origin of everything and you will find the Goddess...

[dleviwing]

Socratus;
Your thread appears to be more suited for the "Spirituality Forum". Any reference to a "God created this" philosophy has no place in the science of cosmology.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl Guille, explain the origin of everything and you will find the Goddess...

Once I wrote in a post (I think it was a reply to you in the 'Who is your god (or not)' thread) a conversation between Lagrange, Napoleon and Laplace, which includes my answer (in Laplace's words). Basically, god explains everything yes, but we go nowhere with it, because we neither predict, nor describe, nor cover any other area which science should achieve by it's theories (including practice; have we developed any tool from the idea of god, that has improved our lifes? NO).

[harmonygirl]

Well, Guille, I guess we agree that science doesn't cover everything. We apperar to disagree, however, on the fact that the Goddess has given us everything. Meditation, yoga, right actions (hopefully stemming from right thoughts) have made me a better person than I otherwise would have been. I think I have a deeper appreciation and love of things than I otherwise would have and hence much happier than I would be without the Goddess. I agree with Mike, the universe is evolving so that there is a deeper appreciation of the beauty of nature which is wider spread than it has been. But I realize that your world is not like this. Pity.

[mkirkpatrick]

Put simply and succinctly,evolution begins the very moment that involution
stops,there is of course,a momentary pause in between.

kind regards michael.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl Well, Guille, I guess we agree that science doesn't cover everything. We apperar to disagree, however, on the fact that the Goddess has given us everything. Meditation, yoga, right actions (hopefully stemming from right thoughts) have made me a better person than I otherwise would have been. I think I have a deeper appreciation and love of things than I otherwise would have and hence much happier than I would be without the Goddess. I agree with Mike, the universe is evolving so that there is a deeper appreciation of the beauty of nature which is wider spread than it has been. But I realize that your world is not like this. Pity.

The world is not like this. I mean, the world is not 'my world', 'your world', 'his world', 'her world'... The world doesn't exist according to our dictation, as you once told me. Or should we accept that all views of the world are true (as subversion defends) and therefore admit, for example, that the Nazi view that the arian race is the unique perfect race and the rest should be erradicated, is correct?

It's not that we disagree about what the goddes has given us, it's that I believe there is no godess to give anything. And never ever never have I recieved any poitn from you or other theists to believe there is a godess. And even if there was a godess, it wouldn't affect my life: you are not more happy/positive due to the fact that you believe in the godess, you are more happy/positive because you recieve a confidence-in-the-world sensation and other 'intuitional statements' from the belief. Some people are like you, in fact, most, and like and feel ok about lying to themselves in order to feel happiness... Well I'll tell you that I prefer to live and die unhappy if it is what I need (and it is) to follow the truth (which you so much times mention and talk about exaltivelly, but really don't follow you'r own words). There is no reason to believe that the universe is evolving into a deeper apreciation of the beauty of nature, in fact, we've lost the ideal of beauty, and we don't even know wether the universe allows a deeper understanding of anything, if not we would have the TOE (I mean, by this, that the TOE won¡'t be acheived by some magical jump from present knowledge to future knowledge, that it won't be a new thing that we don't have, for this is not possible, as we are humans, so we will ahcieve the TOE step by step, inventing and improving).

[Uncommon man]

Originally Posted by <<<GUILLE>>> Socratus, Before of talking about god does, has done, or will do, please proof that god can do at all (exist).

I wish i could to those that believe they have proof all around them, the closer we get to the TOE the more we Will see of gods work.