[SinJin]

Where does life fit into this theory? Is it just an offshoot of the intention, a by product of this idea that blossomed into what we perceive as the universe? Or is it more important, an integral part of the intention?

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by SinJin Where does life fit into this theory? Is it just an offshoot of the intention, a by product of this idea that blossomed into what we perceive as the universe? Or is it more important, an integral part of the intention?

It is as you have just written,an integral part of the intention.And even more so as with this idea in "mind" Sinjin,all of absolutely all is fully alive,we express
more aliveness than a stone,thats all,and by the way,a stone is not un-alive
but rather in a state of profound lethegy!

kind regards michael.

[dogmatorium]

I'd love to ask you ...

I'll take some chapters of the Qur'an

who created te universe ?

[51 - The Scatterers]47. We have built the Firmament with might: and We indeed have vast power.(Qur'an)

did people know before the existence of technology that [ the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course.] ?

[21 - The Prophets] 33. It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course.(Qur'an)



I'd like to have some answers here

have a good time

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by dogmatorium I'd love to ask you ... I'll take some chapters of the Qur'an who created te universe ? [51 - The Scatterers]47. We have built the Firmament with might: and We indeed have vast power.(Qur'an) did people know before the existence of technology that [ the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course.] ? [21 - The Prophets] 33. It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course.(Qur'an) I'd like to have some answers here have a good time

The universe came about,by intent,the intent in in-form,This "idea" came
from within the mind of the absolute!

kind regards michael.

[Mike Lang]

Originally Posted by dleviwing Sinjin; Your questions probably require a much more longwinded explanation, but here’s a short version. Zero entropy infers a state of zero degree of freedom. I view motion of matter as an absolute and thus conserved. This is just another way of saying “conservation of energy”. Any quantity of matter that is in a state of unity motion or one direction of motion will condense to a perfect solid and will appear to have infinite density and mass according to our current mathematics. The universe is expanding due to an event that caused the unity motion to be redistributed in many directions of degree of freedom. This is primarily the vibrations of matter as in the expansion and condensing or wave function of matter. If the universe is truly an open universe, then the matter that condenses to particle structures will form fragments such as supper dense black holes with both linear and angular momentum and thus their entropy will stop at that point. As far as a state of maximum energy is concerned, it should be noted that energy is conserved due to the fact that motion is conserved. Matter that condenses to its minimum level of entropy will be in a state of maximum “Potential Energy”. These are only my conclusion of the observational data and may not fully correspond to current accepted science text. I don’t agree with the Big Bang scenario.

So if you don't agree with Big Bang, what do you believe happened? Why are the galaxies flying apart? Why all the cosmic background radiation?

[dogmatorium]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick The universe came about,by intent,the intent in in-form,This "idea" came from within the mind of the absolute! kind regards michael.

that's fine but who created the universe ?

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Originally Posted by dogmatorium that's fine but who created the universe ?

Dogmatorium, Einstein asked this similar question in a slightly different manner. He asked how god's mind works, as did many philosophers like Leibniz. Einstein and myself say it was a thermodynamic creation, but how? I think it was by thermo-hydro-dynamics of an infinite zero temp void. By just realizing how the universe theoretically must have been befor any thermodynamic wave-heat-motion entered, answers the self-creation circuitry question. Post heat thermodynamic laws are not in any dis-agreement with such theoretical thinking. The second law permits absolute infinite zero temperature, if all, and I mean absolutely all wave/matter heat and motion is removed. Then what do we have?___the greatest thermo-hydro-dynamic explosion of the infinite void ever possible to imagine___the biggest big-bang ever___first infinite light star, from the infinite energy potential of the true and absolute void...! Conservation of energy is preserved by all wave heat and matter motion being created back into the void's infinite energy/matter potential___or the single infinite void matter-atom, if you want... I think all present wave/motion/matter is generated by the existing matter structure of the universe, except for this massive first energy/matter explosion by shear thermo-hydro-dynamic infinite pressure... I totally and absolutely see it as a self-creation circuitry, just as John Wheeler did___I simply add___the how...

regards,
Lloyd

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Dave, what about the two drastically divergant thermodynamic states___the differences of before first star absolute lack of heat, and after first star heat?

regards

Originally Posted by dleviwing The lowest state of entropy is when the substance of the universe had only one directional vector of motion. This is the minimum level of the thermodynamic degree of freedom. Maximum disorder entropy would occur when all the substance (mass) of the universe is converted to the a single wavelength background radiation which would actually be order in the sense that it would be perfect wave symmetry just like a perfect particle. Actually the mass of the universe seems to be condensing to a lower level of degree of freedom and thus decreasing entropy rather than increasing to disorder. See “The Genesis Hypothesis” Thread http://www.toequest.com/forum/emerge...othesis-5.html

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by dogmatorium that's fine but who created the universe ?

You know the answer to that as well as I do my friend!
I can tell you one thing though,dogmatorium,It was not an Albanian named
George???

kindest regards michael.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Sinjin, Maybe it started with an idea, which became manifested thought, and will end with a memory of mindful intention?? kind regards michael.

Originally Posted by SinJin So basically what you're saying is that the universe was created as a dream of some conscious being? That is what I've gathered from your explanation. Much like a thought a human would have. An idea begins in someone's mind, a theme runs throughout the idea, carrying it along, and then the idea is concluded. Is this similar to what you're saying?

Assuming this is true, it is not good enough for the Theory of Everything. We can not stop our research at this being that created the universe and go no farther. The Theory of Everything must include everything and this being or universal consciousness is part of everything so must be rationally considered to discover the reason, the scientific principles, the context and conditions that lead to its emergence.

Regards,
--Robert