[gautam]

Mest is an acronym for mass, energy, space and time.
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It is now almost sure that gravity can never be combined with rest of the three forces. It was gravitational force which led special theory of relativity to the general theory of relativity. Since there was no escape from gravity.
It is an integral part of the spatial universe but has no place in quantum universe.
The only point the philosophers and the scientists have missed for centuries is the-- SMALL SCALE INFINITY.
The universe exists between the large scale infinity [that can be called the spatial infinity or the relative infinity] and the the small scale infinity i.e the quantum infinity. There is nothing like zero in physics. For example, we may keep on dividing any object , be it an atom, for ever but we shall never reached zero. It is evident mathematically too. And that is the small scale infinity. Since we never could visualise that an infinity exists right under the microscopic lense, right under our nose, we simply ignored it.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by gautam Mest is an acronym for mass, energy, space and time. ---------------------------------------------------- It is now almost sure that gravity can never be combined with rest of the three forces. It was gravitational force which led special theory of relativity to the general theory of relativity. Since there was no escape from gravity. It is an integral part of the spatial universe but has no place in quantum universe. The only point the philosophers and the scientists have missed for centuries is the-- SMALL SCALE INFINITY. The universe exists between the large scale infinity [that can be called the spatial infinity or the relative infinity] and the the small scale infinity i.e the quantum infinity. There is nothing like zero in physics. For example, we may keep on dividing any object , be it an atom, for ever but we shall never reached zero. It is evident mathematically too. And that is the small scale infinity. Since we never could visualise that an infinity exists right under the microscopic lense, right under our nose, we simply ignored it.

I look forward to reading your theory,will it be here on this forum?
kind regards michael.

[gautam]

Salient features of mest theory :
1. Mass, energy, and spacetime are not three independent entities.
They are, infact, components of one thing for want of better name, called mest. For example John[ MASS/ENERGY] his life and age[space/time].
If there was no John ,there would be no question of his life and age.
2.The universe is not extended between bigbang i.e. zero and the infinity i.e. its present scale. It is trapped between relative and quantum infinity.
The two infinites are streched and curved to meet at a continuity. Such as to avoid a point or a singularity where laws of science might break.
Every point you choose in this universe is the centre of this universe and we we may draw to spatial cones[ in fact one is quantum] from there going towards two infinities . The upper cone is infact the spatial cone and actually represents spacetime. The cone facing south is actually a tapering from spacetime perspective but widening to represent quantum infinity. Its more like two bangles or two solid spheres kept side by side.
If these cones are actually having a zero starting point than there are certainly singularities existing in the universe and it started with the bigbang singularity.
As two infinities can meet only at an infinite point. There is perhaps
no chance for a sigularity to exist.
The world at the time when its expansion began,was also infinite, if we take mest as one entity.
We have a general perception that to be infinite , the scale must increase.
In mest theory nothing can be reduced to zero because of quantum infinity
Even the smallest measurable quantity has to be devided infinite number of times to reach zero.

[mkirkpatrick]

Gautam,I find your Mest Toe very interesting,in particular the way you have
reduced three "apparent" entities,mass,energy,and spacetime,into just one
entity,masquerading as three!I too can only see one entity,that applies to
the totality of universal manifestation and the cause behind all effects?However,Gautam,what we choose to call this "force" energy,power,is where
I would consider we differ on opinions?

kindests regards michael.

[gautam]

Thanx Michael,
If you think that mass and energy are two different things. But at the basic level i.e at the level of quantum infinity , small scale infinty they are not. Light is the best example. One cant imagine or prove a condition of this universe when all the components of mest can be at singulaity level. Any one can be and that is the fallacy.
WARM REGARDS
Gautam

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by gautam Thanx Michael, If you think that mass and energy are two different things. But at the basic level i.e at the level of quantum infinity , small scale infinty they are not. Light is the best example. One cant imagine or prove a condition of this universe when all the components of mest can be at singulaity level. Any one can be and that is the fallacy. WARM REGARDS Gautam

Thanks gautam,no I see only one entity,in the whole of manifestation,and that entity to me is basically consciousness made manifest via intentional
ideation,of awesome intent and focuss?

regards michael.

[gautam]

Dear Michael
It seems I am not able to explain myself. Thats why we are on different page. We are apparently a three dimensional creatures in a universe which has minimum of four dimensions. That is like an ant inside a football and we are visualizing every thing like an ant on a football i.e. a three dimensional creature in a two dimensional world.To know the truth,the knower has to have one dimension more than the system he is living in. That is the paradox. Where science ends wisdom takes the tourch. Remember,you said about ancient
scriptures
rgds
Gautam

[gautam]

Michael,
Tell me as to what zero means in physical sciences. If there is something as zero then this unverse is finite ,with an edge. In mest theory its finitely infinite. The last star in our seach will be our own sun. But we will not recognize it. As we we would be reaching it by the fartest route. Think, What I am talking about. Truth is a realisation. Then you call it consciousness or dream doesnt matter.
Warm REGARDS
Gautam

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by gautam Michael, Tell me as to what zero means in physical sciences. If there is something as zero then this unverse is finite ,with an edge. In mest theory its finitely infinite. The last star in our seach will be our own sun. But we will not recognize it. As we we would be reaching it by the fartest route. Think, What I am talking about. Truth is a realisation. Then you call it consciousness or dream doesnt matter. Warm REGARDS Gautam

Zero means nothing in science,but something in maths!I understand that truth is a realisation,I reallised that long ago,after a series of intense crisis!
I understand what you are saying gautam,I may not agree with all of it,but I
do understand the basic premise.

kind regards michael

[Tesla]

Originally Posted by gautam We are apparently a three dimensional creatures in a universe which has minimum of four dimensions. That is like an ant inside a football and we are visualizing every thing like an ant on a football i.e. a three dimensional creature in a two dimensional world.To know the truth,the knower has to have one dimension more than the system he is living in. That is the paradox.To know the truth,the knower has to have one dimension more than the system he is living in. That is the paradox. Where science ends wisdom takes the tourch.

I'd like to pass the torch from the wise to the humble. We're somewhere inbetween anxious and arrogant. We, being three dimensional creatures, will never understand this universe of at least four dimensions. We can only accept it as is and that's a stone too big for most to swallow. Ironically, I am still on a TOE quest regardless. Because I am only human (anxious and arrogant) trying to fill a void that is ultimately the universe.

The link below explains my thoughts in further detail:

Our Three Dimensional Prison

Live and let live,

Tesla