[Eric]

Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie

"There is" what, Eric...?

You're absolutely sure it's temperature Lloyd. So why are you asking me?

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Originally Posted by Eric

You're absolutely sure it's temperature Lloyd. So why are you asking me?

You know why I asked Eric, just another one of your obfuscating non-deffinitionary posts. BTW, logic without deffinition is moot...

regards,

[mkirkpatrick]

The primal law of the universe is life expression via motioning within the etheric web or
membrane as the result of absolute wilful intent,consciousness,life,energy,all the same
thing.



regards michael.

[socratus]

NOTHING LIKE A VACUUM
NEW SCIENTISTRobert Matthews, Science Correspondent, the London Sunday Telegraph
From New Scientist, 25 February 1995, Vol.145, No.1966, pp. 30-33.
Copyright © Reed Business Information, New Scientist 1995 (posted with permission) IT is all around you, yet you cannot feel it. Its effects may have lit up the Universe in the big bang but today just lights up your office. It is the source of everything, yet is nothing. Such are the paradoxical features of one of the hottest topics in contemporary physics - the vacuum. It is proving to be a wonderland of magical effects: force fields that emerge from nowhere, particles popping in and out of existence and energetic jitterings with no apparent power source. Many researchers see the vacuum as a central ingredient of 21st-century physics. "We now know that the vacuum can have all sorts of wonderful effects over an enormous range of scales, from the microscopic to the cosmic," says Peter Milonni of the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico. Some even contemplate the prospect of harnessing the vacuum's bizarre properties to provide an apparently limitless supply of energy.
The vacuum's miraculous properties all stem from a combination of quantum theory and relativity. As Werner Heisenberg showed almost 70 years ago, the mechanics of the subatomic world mean that an uncertainty is attached to any measurement of physical properties such as energy. This uncertainty manifests itself in random, causeless fluctuations in energy: the larger the fluctuation, the shorter the time it survives.
Thanks to Einstein's famous equation E = mc2, Heisenberg's uncertainty principle also implies that particles can flit into and out of existence, their duration dictated only by their mass. This leads to the astonishing realisation that all around us "virtual" subatomic particles are perpetually popping up out of nothing, and then disappearing again within about 10-23 seconds.
"Empty space" is thus not really empty at all, but a seething sea of activity that pervades the entire Universe.

[socratus]

=============
Everyone knows, that absolute temperature T=0K
cannot be reached. But is it enough reason to think
that space T=0K doesn’t exist?
If Columbus did not discover America,
there was not America, was it?
===============
At first let’s think about radiation.
The radiation is closely tied with thermodynamics.
To understand the processes of thermodynamics the
scientists used the conception of “ ideal gas”.
What does “ ideal gas” mean?
Now everybody says the “ ideal gas”
is an abstract conception.
I don’t believe in it. I don’t believe that real processes
can be explained with the help of abstract conception.
Now they say the abstract conception nearly coincided
with the real processes in the nature.
What is the result of this mentality?
As a result of this mentality the conception of
“ virtuality”, “viptual particles”, “ virtual displacement”
in Quantum physics were absorbed. But Feynman said that
the conception of “ virtuality” is abstract. So, we see, the
adoption of one abstraction gives birth to another one.
And it may go on to infinity. To stop this senseless abstraction
we must understand what the “ ideal gas” really means.
The “ ideal gas ” was given temperature zero degree Kelvin.
============
a)
The Classical physics says, that when we reach
the temperature T=0K all moving of particles
stops, and the Energy of this space is equal to zero.
It means that the space T=0K is died one.
Therefore it is impossible something to say about T=0K.
b)
But Quantum physics says that the Energy of this space
is not equal to zero. Quantum physics says that in T=0K
“ virtual” particles exist. Why does nobody recognize the
geometrical and physical parameters of “ virtual” particles?
For example: “ Can they have volume?”
No.
Because according to J. Charles law ( 1787),
when the temperature falls down on 1 degree
the volume decreases on 1/273. And when the
temperature reaches -273 degree the volume
disappears. The particles become flat figures.
From them the most optimal is circle: C/D=pi.
c)
According to SRT quantum of light flies
with speed c = 1. And in this moving it cannot
have volume. It means that quantum of light
has a geometrical form of circle: C/D = 3,14….
=================
Planck studied the space of an absolute black body.
Laue called the model of absolute black body
“ Kirchhoff vacuum”. Planck proposed , if light quanta
comes to the space of absolute black body and does not
reflect back the death of warmth and radiation will come.
As such death isn’t observed Planck suggested an idea:
absolute black body radiates light quanta, which is called
Planck,s coefficient (h).
The Planck,s coefficient (h) means the inner impulse of particle.
It means, it doesn’t depend on another forces.
The same is taken place with the speed of light quantum.
Its speed doesn’t depend on another forces, another sources.
The physicists say that light quantum has Planck,s coefficient
equal to one (h=1) and its speed is also equal to one (c=1).
Thus we can understand the interaction between impulse
and speed of light quanta, why light quanta has the same
constant qualities of impulse and speed .
But if the impulse and speed of light quanta don’t depend
on another forces and sources so, it means
light quanta is independent , privileged particle.
==============
I tried to explain my ideas simply.
I don’t know if you understand me.
Maybe you, like others, will ignore my article.
But it means nothing. I know that I am right.
Why?
Before everything has begun from VACUUM,
and still nobody knows what it is.
=========

[socratus]

How can a quantum of light move in a vacuum?

The planets travel without friction in the vacuum.
This means the vacuum is an empty space.
Light waves are transverse waves, therefore it means
the vacuum must be as firm as steel.
How does a quantum of light move in such an unintelligible vacuum?
--------------------
The common answer is that light consists actually of two waves,
an electric wave and a magnetic wave.
According to Maxwell's equations, both induce and thus maintain
each other mutually, and thus there is no need for a medium
and the light can propagate in a vacuum.
------------------------
I studied this concept 50 years ago, but ...50 years have passed...
And now I cannot take the school concept seriously.
Why? Because:
1.
I think it is impossible that electric and magnetic
waves exist at the same time.
Between them, there must be a very short rupture of time.
Then at some moment light will be an electrical wave,
and in another moment, a magnetic wave.
But this electrical waves must be a transverse wave,
which means that the vacuum is as firm as steel.
Unless am I wrong?
2.
It is 100% right that " an electric wave and a magnetic wave,
according to Maxwell's equations, both induce and thus maintain
each other mutually". But this statement is right only according
to classic ( macro) electrodynamics. When Maxwell's electrodynamics
is used in the microworld, then it requires the idea of "quantum of light".

3.
It is not correct to use the common word "light" in quantum theory.
The word "light" is possible to use on a beach, in a market,
in every another place, but not in quantum theory.
Here it is necessary to say "quantum of light".
4.
And now everybody knows that light quanta is a wave
and particle at the same time. And when somebody says
: "that light consists actually of two waves, an electric wave
and a magnetic wave", he forgets the photon is a particle also.
The usage of only wave abilities is not enough
to explain the photon’s motion
The picture of the photon's action is not complete.
Then.......
If we want to see the whole picture of photon’s motion,
we must imagine that its motion jumps from an electric wave to
a magnetic wave and back, from a magnetic wave to an electric
wave and back, and back........
I see my explanation is difficult. Maybe it is better and simpler
to imagine the photon driving a bicycle when one wheel is an
electric wave and another wheel is a magnetic wave.
Sorry.
I only want to say that to use sentences like,
"light quanta is wave and particle at the same time",
"light consists actually of two waves - an electric wave
and a magnetic wave in its motion in a vacuum" is not correct.
P.S.
Imitating some methodology:

There are birds that can walk, fly and swim.
The birds who don’t have one of these abilities are not birds,
according to complementarity and the Copenhagen
interpretation of quantum mechanics.
=======================

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Hi Socratus, check this guy's site out, I think he's of Indian persuasion, but maybe not. He's really brilliant: R. B. Duncan Press
This is another important link to the same site: http://www.rbduncan.com/vsrela.htm
Clean and simple understanding of the universe...

I think he offers the most sensible answers to date, and he's been around for quite a while... Let me know what you think...

Lloyd