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    Re: What is the first law of Universe ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie View Post
    "There is" what, Eric...?
    You're absolutely sure it's temperature Lloyd. So why are you asking me?
    "Just looking for an absolute and trying to understand the relatives,
    and if your relatives are anything like mine...!"

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    Re: What is the first law of Universe ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    You're absolutely sure it's temperature Lloyd. So why are you asking me?
    You know why I asked Eric, just another one of your obfuscating non-deffinitionary posts. BTW, logic without deffinition is moot...

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    "Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein
    "The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G.
    "The tick-tick-tick of the caesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.

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    Smile Re: What is the first law of Universe ?

    The primal law of the universe is life expression via motioning within the etheric web or
    membrane as the result of absolute wilful intent,consciousness,life,energy,all the same
    thing.



    regards michael.
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    reveal herself?

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    Re: What is the first law of Universe ?

    NOTHING LIKE A VACUUM
    NEW SCIENTISTRobert Matthews, Science Correspondent, the London Sunday Telegraph
    From New Scientist, 25 February 1995, Vol.145, No.1966, pp. 30-33.
    Copyright © Reed Business Information, New Scientist 1995 (posted with permission) IT is all around you, yet you cannot feel it. Its effects may have lit up the Universe in the big bang but today just lights up your office. It is the source of everything, yet is nothing. Such are the paradoxical features of one of the hottest topics in contemporary physics - the vacuum. It is proving to be a wonderland of magical effects: force fields that emerge from nowhere, particles popping in and out of existence and energetic jitterings with no apparent power source. Many researchers see the vacuum as a central ingredient of 21st-century physics. "We now know that the vacuum can have all sorts of wonderful effects over an enormous range of scales, from the microscopic to the cosmic," says Peter Milonni of the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico. Some even contemplate the prospect of harnessing the vacuum's bizarre properties to provide an apparently limitless supply of energy.
    The vacuum's miraculous properties all stem from a combination of quantum theory and relativity. As Werner Heisenberg showed almost 70 years ago, the mechanics of the subatomic world mean that an uncertainty is attached to any measurement of physical properties such as energy. This uncertainty manifests itself in random, causeless fluctuations in energy: the larger the fluctuation, the shorter the time it survives.
    Thanks to Einstein's famous equation E = mc2, Heisenberg's uncertainty principle also implies that particles can flit into and out of existence, their duration dictated only by their mass. This leads to the astonishing realisation that all around us "virtual" subatomic particles are perpetually popping up out of nothing, and then disappearing again within about 10-23 seconds.
    "Empty space" is thus not really empty at all, but a seething sea of activity that pervades the entire Universe.

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    Re: What is the first law of Universe ?

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    Everyone knows, that absolute temperature T=0K
    cannot be reached. But is it enough reason to think
    that space T=0K doesn’t exist?
    If Columbus did not discover America,
    there was not America, was it?
    ===============
    At first let’s think about radiation.
    The radiation is closely tied with thermodynamics.
    To understand the processes of thermodynamics the
    scientists used the conception of “ ideal gas”.
    What does “ ideal gas” mean?
    Now everybody says the “ ideal gas”
    is an abstract conception.
    I don’t believe in it. I don’t believe that real processes
    can be explained with the help of abstract conception.
    Now they say the abstract conception nearly coincided
    with the real processes in the nature.
    What is the result of this mentality?
    As a result of this mentality the conception of
    “ virtuality”, “viptual particles”, “ virtual displacement”
    in Quantum physics were absorbed. But Feynman said that
    the conception of “ virtuality” is abstract. So, we see, the
    adoption of one abstraction gives birth to another one.
    And it may go on to infinity. To stop this senseless abstraction
    we must understand what the “ ideal gas” really means.
    The “ ideal gas ” was given temperature zero degree Kelvin.
    ============
    a)
    The Classical physics says, that when we reach
    the temperature T=0K all moving of particles
    stops, and the Energy of this space is equal to zero.
    It means that the space T=0K is died one.
    Therefore it is impossible something to say about T=0K.
    b)
    But Quantum physics says that the Energy of this space
    is not equal to zero. Quantum physics says that in T=0K
    “ virtual” particles exist. Why does nobody recognize the
    geometrical and physical parameters of “ virtual” particles?
    For example: “ Can they have volume?”
    No.
    Because according to J. Charles law ( 1787),
    when the temperature falls down on 1 degree
    the volume decreases on 1/273. And when the
    temperature reaches -273 degree the volume
    disappears. The particles become flat figures.
    From them the most optimal is circle: C/D=pi.
    c)
    According to SRT quantum of light flies
    with speed c = 1. And in this moving it cannot
    have volume. It means that quantum of light
    has a geometrical form of circle: C/D = 3,14….
    =================
    Planck studied the space of an absolute black body.
    Laue called the model of absolute black body
    “ Kirchhoff vacuum”. Planck proposed , if light quanta
    comes to the space of absolute black body and does not
    reflect back the death of warmth and radiation will come.
    As such death isn’t observed Planck suggested an idea:
    absolute black body radiates light quanta, which is called
    Planck,s coefficient (h).
    The Planck,s coefficient (h) means the inner impulse of particle.
    It means, it doesn’t depend on another forces.
    The same is taken place with the speed of light quantum.
    Its speed doesn’t depend on another forces, another sources.
    The physicists say that light quantum has Planck,s coefficient
    equal to one (h=1) and its speed is also equal to one (c=1).
    Thus we can understand the interaction between impulse
    and speed of light quanta, why light quanta has the same
    constant qualities of impulse and speed .
    But if the impulse and speed of light quanta don’t depend
    on another forces and sources so, it means
    light quanta is independent , privileged particle.
    ==============
    I tried to explain my ideas simply.
    I don’t know if you understand me.
    Maybe you, like others, will ignore my article.
    But it means nothing. I know that I am right.
    Why?
    Before everything has begun from VACUUM,
    and still nobody knows what it is.
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    Re: What is the first law of Universe ?

    How can a quantum of light move in a vacuum?

    The planets travel without friction in the vacuum.
    This means the vacuum is an empty space.
    Light waves are transverse waves, therefore it means
    the vacuum must be as firm as steel.
    How does a quantum of light move in such an unintelligible vacuum?
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    The common answer is that light consists actually of two waves,
    an electric wave and a magnetic wave.
    According to Maxwell's equations, both induce and thus maintain
    each other mutually, and thus there is no need for a medium
    and the light can propagate in a vacuum.
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    I studied this concept 50 years ago, but ...50 years have passed...
    And now I cannot take the school concept seriously.
    Why? Because:
    1.
    I think it is impossible that electric and magnetic
    waves exist at the same time.
    Between them, there must be a very short rupture of time.
    Then at some moment light will be an electrical wave,
    and in another moment, a magnetic wave.
    But this electrical waves must be a transverse wave,
    which means that the vacuum is as firm as steel.
    Unless am I wrong?
    2.
    It is 100% right that " an electric wave and a magnetic wave,
    according to Maxwell's equations, both induce and thus maintain
    each other mutually". But this statement is right only according
    to classic ( macro) electrodynamics. When Maxwell's electrodynamics
    is used in the microworld, then it requires the idea of "quantum of light".

    3.
    It is not correct to use the common word "light" in quantum theory.
    The word "light" is possible to use on a beach, in a market,
    in every another place, but not in quantum theory.
    Here it is necessary to say "quantum of light".
    4.
    And now everybody knows that light quanta is a wave
    and particle at the same time. And when somebody says
    : "that light consists actually of two waves, an electric wave
    and a magnetic wave", he forgets the photon is a particle also.
    The usage of only wave abilities is not enough
    to explain the photon’s motion
    The picture of the photon's action is not complete.
    Then.......
    If we want to see the whole picture of photon’s motion,
    we must imagine that its motion jumps from an electric wave to
    a magnetic wave and back, from a magnetic wave to an electric
    wave and back, and back........
    I see my explanation is difficult. Maybe it is better and simpler
    to imagine the photon driving a bicycle when one wheel is an
    electric wave and another wheel is a magnetic wave.
    Sorry.
    I only want to say that to use sentences like,
    "light quanta is wave and particle at the same time",
    "light consists actually of two waves - an electric wave
    and a magnetic wave in its motion in a vacuum" is not correct.
    P.S.
    Imitating some methodology:

    There are birds that can walk, fly and swim.
    The birds who don’t have one of these abilities are not birds,
    according to complementarity and the Copenhagen
    interpretation of quantum mechanics.
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    Re: What is the first law of Universe ?

    Hi Socratus, check this guy's site out, I think he's of Indian persuasion, but maybe not. He's really brilliant: R. B. Duncan Press
    This is another important link to the same site: http://www.rbduncan.com/vsrela.htm
    Clean and simple understanding of the universe...

    I think he offers the most sensible answers to date, and he's been around for quite a while... Let me know what you think...

    Lloyd
    "To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
    "Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein
    "The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G.
    "The tick-tick-tick of the caesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.

 

 
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