[RascalPuff]

Dear Prof:
Not to worry about the addition of a third gear, it is by definition an intractable problem. Specifically there is an enigma called 'the three body problem', which isn't what we're dealing with. I just happened to notice that it could be approximately replicated in context of what we're talking about.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by RascalPuff Dear Prof: Not to worry about the addition of a third gear, it it by definition an intractable problem. Specifically there is an enigma called 'the three body problem', which isn't what we're dealing with. I just happened to notice that it could be replicated in context of what we're talking about.

Tell me rascal.am I correct in thinking that dear old Albert postulated the idea of parellel
worlds?


regards michael.

[RascalPuff]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Tell me rascal.am I correct in thinking that dear old Albert postulated the idea of parellel worlds? regards michael.

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Dear Michael:

Google 'Einstein - parallel universe':
Parallel universes would seem to be the most unlikely prediction of relativity, but their proposal is just as fact-based as those dealing with black holes.

The idea of parallel universes was taken seriously after experiments with properties of light. Night exhibits wave-particle duality-it acts like both a particle and a wave. But even this odd characteristic did not account for the surprising results scientists noted in 'double slit tests'. A beam of light would be shined at a screen through another screen with two slits in it. When both slits were open, it seemed as if an electron would pass through both at the same time; and with one open, some areas of the screen would get more light then when both were open. While some of this could be attributed to particle-wave duality, in some cases it seemed almost as though the possibilities of what the light could do was affecting the outcome.

The only way for this to happen is for all the possiblities to exist at once. This idea is the backbone of the parallel universe theory-that all the possibilities for every action exist as an alternate universe. At the moment when an outcome is needed, they can overlap, or one of the separate universes will bend its solution.

Because there are an infinite number of possibilities, there is an infinite number of parallel universes, and therefore, an infinite number of you. A parallel universe for you oversleeping this morning, losing your homework, wearing different clothes... it goes on. For every interaction, there is a myriad of possibilites.

This all seems very far-fetched from Einstein's theory, but Einstein actually speculated and believed in parallel universes. He helped to discover the Einstein-Rosem Bridge-the area at the singularity of a rotating black hole where one can cross into a parallel universe.

Which is really the heart of the problem-reaching the singularity of a rotating black hole. But you'll have to read about black holes to find out why.

Best regards,
- RP

[RascalPuff]

Dear Prof:

In the commonplace activity of spinning coins, please take note of another ('familiar') occurrence that goes along with the preoccupation...

As the spinning coin settles down on a hard surface, as it's slowing to stop, it takes up a quickening vibration (This is better done with spinning a common dinner plate on it's axis on a linoleum or wooden floor)... What you are listening to there as the coin or plate settles down to a sudden stop, is the acceleration of the sound of the coin or plate as it surrenders to gravity ('is acceleration' - Einstein)...

That (everyday experience) is the (accelerating) sound of gravity - you know, the dynamic that is considered unidentifiable... Well, in watching the coin or plate settle down you are seeing the effects of gravity, and in hearing the settling you are hearing the gravity, acting on that coin or plate... As it moves in what is under these circumstances, and inwardly directed spiral...

Since one of the titles of my work is 'gravity is the 4th dimension', you are likewise audiovisually witnessing that - the ('unimaginable') 4th dimension, also. The spin we're in.

Best regards,
- RP

[Profpat]

Thanks RP;

I am glad we don't have to deal with the 3 body problem with only 2 universes.

Off the subject, but thanks for introducing me to this problem, because it fits my idea of the three quarks attached to each other ( confined ). Lacking confinement I guess we could have real chaos at the proton level.

Thank God there are limits and constraints in our universe ( such as confinement of the quarks or the speed of light etc ) to help us make sense of our reality.

Back to the topic. I agree that a spinning coin is an excellent example of both the 4th dimension of time and of gravity's effect. I guess as far as the acceleration of gravity, I'm a bit confused. But like with so much of your information, I have to think and rethink.

It's interesting to see how this is turning. I have to be honest I'm not a multiuniverse type person.

I'm off to Chicago the next few days for a seminar but I'll return, fresh with new thoughts about parallel universes,and of shoes and ships and sealing wax.

Best to all,

Pat

PS I'm glad Einstein entertained the possibity of parallel universes.

[Profpat]

Dear RP and Michael;

I'm back from Chicago with some fresh thoughts about parallel universes.

I read a most informative article on PARALLEL UNIVERSES by Max Tegmark on the internet.
He classified the theories by 4 levels. Level 1 is the one I am talking about. Everything is the same except I would be left handed rather then right. When I get up my parallel Pat would get up . When I die he dies.
It is also very, very, very far away.

He also discussed ones sharing our space and universes of all possibilities happening. Levels 2 through 4 theories.

He stated that its physically possibe to have parallel universe(s) and the main arguement against it is Occams Razor. If you don't need it why have it, and even if you did have one you can't observe it.

Well I think we might need at least One Parallel Universe to resolve the asymmetricl view of the Big Bang. With a parallel universe we would restore symmetry at creation.

And with symmetry restored RP I think your 2 universes intermeshed at the edges ( if the universe has an edge ) internally turning. one with a left spin and other with a right spin, revolving around each other could indeed make a lot of sense.

And its eerie that the yin/yang symbol ( The Diagram of the Supreme Ultimate ) symbolizing that same image.

I guess to make that image perfect I would think ours would be the dark universe and the other principally luminated, since we have mostly dark matter and dark energy.

I know you don't like the idea of dark stuff RP, but it would match the symbol.

And following Occams Razor I think we only need 2 universes.

Just some recent thoughts.

Best.

Pat

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Profpat Dear RP and Michael; I'm back from Chicago with some fresh thoughts about parallel universes. I read a most informative article on PARALLEL UNIVERSES by Max Tegmark on the internet. He classified the theories by 4 levels. Level 1 is the one I am talking about. Everything is the same except I would be left handed rather then right. When I get up my parallel Pat would get up . When I die he dies. It is also very, very, very far away. He also discussed ones sharing our space and universes of all possibilities happening. Levels 2 through 4 theories. He stated that its physically possibe to have parallel universe(s) and the main arguement against it is Occams Razor. If you don't need it why have it, and even if you did have one you can't observe it. Well I think we might need at least One Parallel Universe to resolve the asymmetricl view of the Big Bang. With a parallel universe we would restore symmetry at creation. And with symmetry restored RP I think your 2 universes intermeshed at the edges ( if the universe has an edge ) internally turning. one with a left spin and other with a right spin, revolving around each other could indeed make a lot of sense. And its eerie that the yin/yang symbol ( The Diagram of the Supreme Ultimate ) symbolizing that same image. I guess to make that image perfect I would think ours would be the dark universe and the other principally luminated, since we have mostly dark matter and dark energy. I know you don't like the idea of dark stuff RP, but it would match the symbol. And following Occams Razor I think we only need 2 universes. Just some recent thoughts. Best. Pat

Thanks Pat.I too think that we have at least two universes,prehaps many more,but certainly two,could you possibly give me a link to this site you looked at on the net,I would
like to look at it.

regards michael

[Profpat]

Michael;

It was a yahoo search Key Word ( Parallel Universes), it was # 12. If I was computer literate I'd link you to the site directly.
Sorry.

Pat

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Profpat Michael; It was a yahoo search Key Word ( Parallel Universes), it was # 12. If I was computer literate I'd link you to the site directly. Sorry. Pat

Thats fine Pat,I am hopeless with computers too,have you tried those new gas ones btw?


warm regards michael.

[Profpat]

http://www.hep.upenn.edu/~max/multiverse.pdf

Sorry again Michael that is the site above.

Pat